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hello everyone i'm lana zak thank you so
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much for joining us
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president biden says he's still pushing
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to get both of his agenda-defining
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spending bills passed in congress he
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made the remarks saturday morning before
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leaving for wilmington delaware the
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president said both pieces of
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legislation will benefit the american
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people
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there's nothing in any of these pieces
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of legislation that's radical that is
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unreasonable that is when you look at it
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individually the problem is
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you know
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it's one of the reasons why
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people said well i heard on television
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and totally legit why wasn't biden going
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around the country selling this before
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well for a few little things like we had
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hurricanes and floods
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the president met with house democrats
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friday for about 30 minutes as
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negotiations continued cbs news learned
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he urged lawmakers in his party to find
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compromise but progressive and moderate
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democrats are still deadlocked cbs news
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correspondent christine rofini has the
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latest
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after an in-person visit from president
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biden we're going to get it done some
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progressive democrats say they may be
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willing to compromise on their proposed
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3.5 trillion dollar spending plan if we
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are going to think about anything less
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than the number what we would rather do
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is get as many things in
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as possible maybe
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not everything can be funded for 10
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years maybe it's going to be a lesser
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period of time democratic infighting
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over the size and scope of the bill is
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putting the president's domestic agenda
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at risk
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it doesn't matter whether it's in six
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minutes six days or six weeks
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we're going to get it done and has twice
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delayed a house vote on the 1.2 trillion
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dollar bipartisan infrastructure bill
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there is a little bit of distrust among
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the
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progressives and the moderates and we're
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trying to we're trying to figure out a
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process how do we get there how do we
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land this plane
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but while warring factions fixate on the
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spending measure are we going to live
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deliver universal pre-k to this country
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or not are we going to expand health
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care to our seniors and include vision
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and dental or not
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the stalled infrastructure plan has
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caused a lapse in funding for certain
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highway and transit programs and the
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furlough of workers there are 4 000
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lives and families too that might be
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furloughed because of us i mean come on
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last night the house did approve a
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30-day funding measure for the
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department of transportation to help
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mitigate some of those furloughs that
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measure will go to the senate this
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afternoon lana christina thank you
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discuss what's happening on capitol hill
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i want to bring in bill hoageland he's
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the senior vice president of the
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bipartisan policy center and a former
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staffer for republican senators hi bill
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good to have you on the show so you
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worked for decades on the senate budget
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committee helping on a number of budget
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bills take us through the process what
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kind of negotiations are happening right
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now
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i think right now the negotiations are
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as the president indicated are within
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the democratic caucuses both between the
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uh the senate caucus
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caucus and the house caucus as he
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indicated so right now it really is a
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negotiation to find between the
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progressives and the moderates in the
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democratic party uh to find a common
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number and i think they're getting there
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i think it's clear from the discussions
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yesterday along with uh senator manchin
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and senator simon's
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comments earlier that we're probably
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looking at a package that they're coming
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pretty close to agreeing on around two
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to
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two trillion as opposed to the 3.5
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trillion that was originally estimated
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and this now will require them now to
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talk about how do they
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how do they fit their priorities whether
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it's child care or medicare expansions
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how do you do this within that uh
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framework of a a two trillion dollar
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package bush is a 3.5 and i think that's
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where they are right now figuring out
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how to uh fund those priorities that's
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in the president's budget within that uh
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more uh more slightly more restrictive
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uh spending cap
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though both of these bills are larger
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than a trillion dollars they haven't
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been easy to pass both because of the
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struggles between republicans and
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democrats as well as between democrats
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themselves
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to start off let me ask
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do you think that this is a sign that
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congress still is capable of passing
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major legislation like this in a
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bipartisan fashion or
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are we continuing to become more
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entrenched in our different categories
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well unfortunately and no surprise
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coming from the bipartisan policy center
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i'm a little discouraged that the
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bipartisan infrastructure package hasn't
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been moved to the president's desk but i
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understand that
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uh
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the negotiations of tying that package
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to the uh to the president's buildback
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america build back better packages part
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of the negotiations no i think it's not
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an indication that we cannot work
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together
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i think it is just a simple indication
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of how difficult it is in a very
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partisan environment on capitol hill to
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come to an agreement and to find
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compromise right now it's a compromise
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within the democratic party and not with
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the republicans and i think that's an
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indication
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that's a new new uh twist on our
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negotiations of the past where it's been
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republicans that have been in the
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negotiations but when this bill
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comes to pass and that and i think it
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will uh it will be a partisan bill it
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will pass in the united states
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senate with 51 votes
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that's unfortunate that it's a partisan
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bill but that's because we have a 50 50
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senate i think that's the nature of the
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outlook for uh legislation over the next
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at least through the rest of this
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congress
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let's talk about those struggles within
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the democratic party that you were that
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you were mentioning do you think that
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leadership is capable of getting
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progressives and moderates within the
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party to compromise
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i think they have to i think as the
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president indicated they have no choice
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they cannot fail this is something that
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they'll have to come to agreement on and
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they will um they will find a way in
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which some of the priorities are scaled
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back or as one of the congressmen said
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in your previous
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uh indication that they would probably
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not fund things for 10 years that
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remember the 3.5 figure was a 10-year
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figure
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there are ways to do a
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lesser number over a lesser period of
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time
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that still gets the priority started
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whether it's child care whether it's
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preschool arts whether medicare
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expansion of medicare benefits you can
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start those particular programs you
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don't have to but they're not permanent
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and that's one of the difficulties with
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the process that's being used here which
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is reconciliation
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uh you're limiting it to uh to make it
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fit within a fiscal plan but that that
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means you sunset uh particular
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provisions they don't make them
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permanent and you come back and have to
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deal with them later in uh later
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congresses
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well congress has an upcoming deadline
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involving the debt ceiling the president
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was asked earlier if using
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reconciliation is a possibility to raise
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it let's hear what he had to say
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well i hope the republicans won't be so
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irresponsible
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has refused to raise the debt limit and
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to filibuster the debt limit that would
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be totally unconscionable never been
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done before and so i hope that won't
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happen
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bill focusing on bipartisan
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uh is this a a sad new chapter when the
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debt ceiling is something that becomes a
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partisan issue and what do you expect
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will ultimately happen
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well number one uh i agree with by the
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way i agree with the president this is
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uh unconscionable that we would actually
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default the united states government has
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never defaulted its history
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it is not however unprecedented that the
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debt limit hasn't been used for
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political purposes i go back to 1985
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graham redmond hollings was tied to when
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we were simply trying to increase the
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statutory debt limit above two trillion
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dollars now we're dealing of course
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closer to 30 trillion dollars
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it was used in 2011 with
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negotiations between
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then chairman of the house budget
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committee paul ryan and the chairman of
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the senate budget committee patty murray
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it's been a tool that's been used for
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negotiations in the past what's unusual
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about this particular situation is uh is
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that there's doesn't seem to be a a
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what do we want in return for uh raising
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the debt limit on the republican side
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this is more a political um forcing of
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the democratic
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members of the united states senate to
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vote for it without any republican
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support and that's unhuge and unfair i
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think because quite frankly republicans
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as well as democrats are responsible for
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running up the uh the credit tab on a
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credit card over the last many years uh
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one thing the president hints at there
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which is a could be the solution which i
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as a maybe an old senate staffer
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institutionalist am scared about but you
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could eliminate the filibuster as we've
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done for
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judges
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supreme court judges
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if you want to press this it's possible
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to
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target the elimination of the filibuster
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for the purposes of raising the
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statutory debt limit in this country and
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make it a simple 51 votes but at that
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particular point once again
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we're talking about uh no republicans
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will be voting for that and so the
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entire raising of the statutory debt
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limit will be placed quote politically
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on the shoulders of the democratic
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caucus
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so whether through reconciliation or
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through eliminating the filibuster on
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that specific issue it would still lie
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with democrats
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all right that's right bill hogan
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thank you so much for joining
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