Student Debt! Can it Be a Tax Write-Off? | Mark J Kohler | CPA | Attorney - YouTube

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How, would you like to write off all your student debt as a tax write-off
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Yeah i know it's a unique question and i get asked that question
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All the time and so i thought i got to shoot a video on this and addressed, what the options are they're
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Not great but at least you're going to get the straight answer
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My, name's mark kohler i'm a cpa, attorney best-selling author radio show host blah blah
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Blah, but i help small business owners and taxpaying americans around the country
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Save taxes better live their dream
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Well going into college debt is a huge part of a lot of people's dream and there's a lot of people
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thousands of
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Americans with six-figure student debt, well we need to talk about how, to maybe get a tax write-off
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When you're, starting to pay it down, and some ways to attack it but let
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Me just say right off the bat straight answer there's, no way to just get a tax write-off for paying off your student debt
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Now you can write off the student loan, interest but it phases out
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Now i'm going to get creative with, some other options here in a minute but you can't generally write off your student debt as a
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Expense there's old line item for that on your tax return without a little bit of creativity
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But you can write off the student loan interest yeah up to a whopping twenty, five hundred dollars worth of student interest
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But the bad news is to it phases out if you're single and make more than 80 grand no write-off married
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Filing, joint more than 160 grand no write-off so if you, went to school to make a lot of money
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In a profession that required a lot of student debt now
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you
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Can't even write off the student loan interest to pay off your student debt
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Now as you can see already this video is not about, how
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To get out of the student debt whether through bankruptcy or a negotiation with, the bank or
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Some other credit counseling procedure and i highly recommend you look at all your options for that and there's a lot out there a
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Lot of research you can do on that topic but i want to talk about, again, how
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You might be able to write off that student loan debt in some creative
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Ways let's go to the whiteboard now for those of you that have already watched a lot of my videos hopefully on my
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youtube channel you've already subscribed, any tax strategy, you can, think of i'm trying to do a video on it
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Well small business is a huge part of that and i'm gonna show
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you, my
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typical structure on my whiteboard of how it would look and
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If you came out of school and got student debt to start a small business as a
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Professional maybe as an architect a doctor a dentist a lawyer an engineer i don't know
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Maybe you're working for a, big firm with the w-2. Right now but if you, don't have a small business your options
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Completely piron for the most part unless you're trying to write off your interest but here's a couple ideas you might like
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Now this is where the first creative option comes into play
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And that's for those of you that are parents that might be helping your kids
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By, paying for some of their college debt and then that's going to play into
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Some other strategies for you that have a small business that came out of school with student debt so hang with
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Me here so, what i do as many of you know
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Is divide your life into two sides you've got opps over here and you've got assets over here now
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This, would be things like a rental property business in an llc
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or maybe an operational business
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Internet marketing sales services product restaurant
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Dentist doctor engineer lawyer accountant real estate broker real estate flipper right all that that's ops and you're, gonna generally be in an s corporation
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Now if you're paying taxes and then paying for your kids student debt there's no write-off you know
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That so what i want you to do is change the methodology, here what i'd like to do?
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is make sure that your kids your adult children that are now out of college are on your board of directors
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And if they're on your board of directors and they're helping you with, maybe, some marketing business management
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Office duties maybe just give me an advice and sales support, maybe they're helping manage your rental property in the town
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Where they live if you can coordinate your rentals, where your kids are going onto their careers and you're
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Still helping with student debt they're on your board of advisors something, we do when, we set up, llc's for clients?
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That's why, i want you to set up llc's at a real law firm because we're
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Gonna, think outside the box to help, you get tax write-offs rather than click click with a mouse and set up your
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Own entity call, me we'll save you 10 times that so i want you to have a, board of advisors in your llc
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Which could, be your kids and what you?
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Want to say is hey if i'm gonna pay your student debt you can help you out in my business
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So i'm only on the board of directors on what you're doing, some meetings with, you i want you doing
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Some financial analysis and support, some help, some bookkeeping or something and maybe even manage, my own rental property now
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you're, going to give your kids a 1099 for helping you which is going to be used to pay that student debt
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So that student debt becomes a write-off. Because you're paying them to help you in your business
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Helping, you manage the rental properties so that 1099 becomes a great tax write-off what
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You, weren't getting before and your kids are gonna probably be in a lower tax bracket than
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You, and with the new, standard deductions being doubled
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They, may, not pay any tax on that 1099 generally they, may be paying tax on their
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Own business but not on this right you could
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Finagle a way to pull this off but this is where you use family planning to shift
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Income to a different family member in a lower tax bracket
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Now in no way shape or form right am i alluding to a scam or some sort of sham or a
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nes
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Worth it where you're ripping off the irs this is your kids
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Legitimately helping you and your business and for legitimate pay you're
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Gonna 1099 them in at christmastime they love it they get a 1099 in their christmas stocking and they're like
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Oh, this, is great what is this?
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Well they'll find out soon enough but
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The beauty here is you are now getting a tax write-off for paying them to pay off student debt
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Rather than you just paying taxes at your bracket and paying student debt that's creative option number one now
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Creative option number two for those of you with paying your own student debt which most of us are probably doing right
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What can, you, do here let's think of that family shifting of income again, now, let's say legitimately, again i don't
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Want any irs agent or otherwise watching this thinking marks coming up with, this you know, some sort of top ten
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Scam to ripoff the irs what i'm seeing is maybe your mom or dad?
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That are helping you on the board of directors run your new. Business
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Your parents, may be retired and you've just got out of college with, maybe graduate school and you've now
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started your dental practice and you've got a huge student debt and
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Your mom or dad are retired during a much lower tax bracket than you and you say
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Hey, mom and dad i'm gonna pay you to serve on my, board of directors
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And would you pay off my student debt for me a little you know
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Maybe you give, sorry, don't use the gift word from your direction you're
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Gonna 1099 them for them being a subcontractor and then they're
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gonna gift you money by paying down some of your debt
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Well in 2018 the gift exemption is $15,000 per person so you could literally pay mom and dad
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$30,000 on a 1099 serving legitimately on your board of directors or in your business and
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then they could turn around a gift you money by paying down your student debt and
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Thereby, you've shifted income in to their tax bracket to help them with with their taxes you might give them
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Some money but you're paying down your student debt in a more creative manner hi guys i know, some of you?
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May hate that some of you that are tax professionals may go mark that is really pushing the envelope that's a little too sneaky
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But hey
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We got to get creative here the student debt in america is a crisis
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It's not getting forgiven there are some
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Negotiation tactics in bankruptcy but it's tough and i want people to pay off their student debt i mean it's a?
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Crisis that could affect us taxpaying americans if we have to did you know
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barry unbury this and dig people out of their holes but i
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Wanted to just talk, about, some creative options, where you really should have your parents or your children
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Serving on these board of directors or board of advisors and you could be taking a tax write-off to pay them
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Who then turn around a gift you, some money to pay down that student debt payment every month run the numbers look at
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Your options talk to your tax professional have them watch, this video and you tax professionals out there, don't be mad at
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Me i'm trying to think outside the box of ways you can legitimately get a tax write-off to some help back
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Door in some payments under that student debt bucket
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