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*dramatic voice* War.
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War never changes.
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Oh look, shaving!
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Cool!
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*Intro theme plays*
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Hello Internet,
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welcome to Game Theory
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and to the conclusion of what I'm going to lovingly call our apocalypse trilogy.
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I mean think about it,
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You had Mad Max, Fallout, and FNAF 4.
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Yup,
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three games symbolizing the fall of rational humankind.
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First things first, just in case you've been living deep underground
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in a surprisingly clean, roomy, and self sustaining bomb shelter for the past month and a half,
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as part of a series of games announced at this year's E3 conference
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which left many a gamer weeping for joy
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Bethesda grew my cold, scientific heart 3 sizes that day
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probably through radiation more than love,
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when it announced Fallout 4 isn't only a real game,
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but that it'll be here before the end of the year.
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Now THAT is how you make an announcement.
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Take that, vague Kingdom Hearts 3 trailer!
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But for one gamer out there this wasn't just super exciting,
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it was the culmination of almost 8 years of careful and diligent work.
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Sort of.
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In case you've never done yourself a favor and played the Fallout series before,
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the games take place in an alternate universe where among other things
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World War 2 never really ended.
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Everyone is afraid of getting invaded by China
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and in 2077 a nuclear war takes place
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which wipes out civilization as we know it.
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Humans that haven't mutated into deadly monsters or zombies
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live in small communities that dot the radioactive wasteland.
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And instead of printed money people have taken to using discarded old bottle caps for currency.
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Knowing this, a little over a month ago a clever Fallout super fan named Seth
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who goes by GatorMacheteJr on Imagur,
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so as not to get him confused with GatorMacheteSr, obviously,
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sent his collection of bottle caps to Bethesda.
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A whopping 2,240 caps,
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aka 11 pounds of bottle toppers,
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aka the remnants of an entire undergrad and masters degree worth in parties.
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All in the hopes of preordering the game using the franchise's own currency.
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Shortly thereafter, employee Matt Grandstaff confirmed
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that Seth would indeed be recieving a copy of the game
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when it's released on November 10th.
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Unless they decided to pull a Scott Cawthon and release it,
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like, a week ago.
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Now, other than being an extremely cute enouraging story,
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about how seriously Bethesda takes the dedication of their fanbase,
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this got the wheels in my head turning a bit.
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Just how much are bottle caps from the Fallout universe worth
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in real world US dollars?
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And how many of those bottle caps would it take
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to actually reach the real world monetary value
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of a brand new copy of Fallout 4?
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Aka $59.99
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plus tax.
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With exclusive instore preorder bonuses
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like dirty brown, skin 1,
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dirty brown, skin 2,
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useless rifle that you'll feel compelled to keep,
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since you've got it as an exclusive preorder instore bonus,
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AND your own real world pip-boy.
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OK, now that last one is actually pretty cool.
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*tuba*
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So, saddle up, strap on your power armor and grab your laser tommy guns
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because now I'm going to use my patented version of mind vats,
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to walk you through exactly how we're gonna figure this out.
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To understand the math behind bottlecap cash,
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you first have to understand how currencies work.
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When you think of money you'd probably think of pill-
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pills, hah okay
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When you think of money you'd probably think of bills and coins as having worth,
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but a bottlecap?
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It seems absurd, right?
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But really, it's not.
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That piece of paper you hold in your hand is just as meaningless as a bottlecap.
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They're both useless objects.
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In fact, the bottlecap is probably more useful.
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The only difference though is that we've all agreed that the paper has some sort of
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greater symbolic value and that the bottlecap is
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just trash.
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I mean, did you know that just a few years ago
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dealers were using tide detergent
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as an acceptable payment for drugs?
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Seriously, laundry detergent,
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the stuff that your whites whiter and your brights brighter
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was the go-to currency for your heroin fix.
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Brings new meaning to the term "money laundering" am I right?
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Brings new meaning to the term "money laundering" am i right?
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right?
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*tuba* Alright...
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Or think about the classic example of cigarettes
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having value in prison.
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Currancy is merely an agreement that some object
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like a bottlecap, or a jug of tide, or a set of objects
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like a piece of paper and round chunks of metal
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has value.
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Historically, these items were really just kind of an IOU,
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the bill that you held in your hand was backed by something,
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it represented some amount of a more valuable resource.
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Walk into the bank, hand over your money,
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and theoretically you could walk out with your rightful amount of that resource,
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most often, gold and silver,
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which, it's also worth pointing out, are two metals that, again, are only valuable,
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because we've all agreed they have value.
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Seriously,
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What are you really going to do with a big brick of gold?
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Bludgeon someone with it?
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door stop?
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bicep curl??
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today though most money is what is known as fiat money
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no not the saving you put away for your fancy Italian car
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Its money that not backed by anything,
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in the fallout games this isn't a problem
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because bottle caps are backed by another valuable resource
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Water. Water is the valuable resource in the post apocalypse,
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Why bottle caps?
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well the reasoning behind bottle caps was that there impossible to counterfeit,
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No bottle cap factory's existed after the word ended
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That also means that they're in limited supply which preserves their value against inflation,
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A huge issue we discussed during our economics of world of war craft episode,
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So what is the value of a bottle cap?
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Well since we can't put a firm price on the value of water in the fallout universe
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we have to compare them to something that's generally considered to be a valuable resource across all of history
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the aforementioned gold.
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In the fallout new vegas add on dead money you can collect 37 gold bars during the "Heist of the Centuries" mission
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each one can be sold at an optimum value of 10,539 caps,
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This also tells us that gold is a good standard to compare against
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because this is one of the highest valued items in the game.
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Meaning that even in the post apocalypse gold is still something people value
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now the carry weight of each of these bars is 35 pounds
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so all we need to do to find the value of that gold is to convert it to bottle caps and we have our answer
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to begin the value of gold is most often measured in ounces,
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But not ounces that americans know them were there are 16 per pound rather troy ounces
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a unit of mass specifically for gold and other precious metals and gemstones.
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A troy ounce is actually heavier then the united states ounce
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which isn't even its official name technically u.s. ounces are called
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''Avoirdupois'' ounces
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but just saying that word makes me feel pretentious so let's move on.
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Doing the conversion of 35 pound gold brick is actually 510 troy ounces
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but that's not all, we also have to consider how pure the gold is,
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Loyal theorists will remember when we calculated the cost of minecraft diamond armor using the four C's of gemstones
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one of those c's stood for carat or weight of the diamond gold is also measured in karats but this time with a k
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a word originating from the carob beans that old merchants used to use to weigh gold carob with a 'C' not a 'K'
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and karat with a 'K' now measures gold purity not weight like carat with a 'C'
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despite it originally being inspired by a measure of weight
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Ya ya know what they really just (*bleeped*) the whole system up...
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So 24 karat gold is pure gold this can also be expressed by saying that its 999 out of a thousand parts gold
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which again isn't technically pure 100% since there's that one missing thousandth but whatever gold merchants are dumb,
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So in fallout we see the gold bar being marked with 999.9 telling us this is a pure chunk of 24 karat gold
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as such thankfully we don't need to do any other funky calculations,
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so the price per gold in the fallout universe is
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10,539 caps
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divided by 510 troy ounces or about
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21 caps per troy ounce of pure 24 karat gold
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now to finally relate it to something we know the price of gold in dollars,
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And I wanted to do that as accurately as possible
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which meant pinning down the exact year the fallout universe completely diverted from our own timeline,
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Which according to developers is when culture essentially froze where it was
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after reading as many interviews as I could find the best I could conclude that the split occurred sometime around the 1950's
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But here on Game theory I'm not satisfied with just rough estimates I had to get a little creative,
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The only real connection I could find between Fallout's universe and our own reality besides a few dialogue references and landmarks
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was the music that plays on your in game radio on the various stations you pick up on your pip boy
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so I organized all the real world songs into a list
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and after checking the original release dates of each recording
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the most recent song on either of the games soundtracks was a cover of the classic song 'blue moon' by Frank Sinatra
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witch plays on radio new vegas in fallout new vegas and places the timline split a little later then I expected
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squarely in 1961 more specifically January 3rd
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So armed with a date some gold and a fist full of bottle caps we can finally reach our conclusion,
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In 1961 the cost of gold was about $35 dollars per troy ounce
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that would mean each bottle cap would be worth $1.67
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wow that's surprisingly expensive actually, those are some valuable caps
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in other word GatorMacheteJr by paying 2,240 caps you technically over paid by
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$3,680.80
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Whoo, hope you get plenty of play hours out of that one
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in the words of an old timey person from 1961
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"You kid, ya' got a bum steer."
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but that's just talking about 1960's money
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how about in today's economy how does this all translate to 2015 dollars
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well gold nowadays runs for
the astronomical $1,095 per troy ounce
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Oh ho, what a difference 50 years can make right? and you can see where this is going GatorMacheteJr you got hosed
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at those prices each individual bottle cap would be worth $52 dollars
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you practically could have bought the full pip boy edition with 2 measly caps,
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but by handing over all 2,240 of the bottle caps in your collection
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in the world of fallout you actually paid... get this
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$116,480 dollars
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hopefully Bethesda throws in some DLC for ya buddy
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*cricket sounds*
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seriously for that price you could've bought something useful like a house
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or...
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this picture of mount dogmore that i found
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Etsy is a weird site...
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now I've done this enough times to know that some of you in the comments will complain about me using comparisons to in game gold
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"ohh it's fictional currency"... ba ba ba
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okay fine,
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So let me run one last calculation
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finding out how much real world bottle caps are worth today
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and figuring out how much GatorMachete actually paid
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well here's how dedicated I am to you
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I got in contact with Crown Holdings, the company who originally founded crown cap enclosers
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the bottle caps you see featured in the games and asked about the composition of bottle caps made by the company in 1961
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a very helpful women named Sheila informed me that at the time caps were made from 100% carbon steel
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for more research I found that a single steel bottle cap weighs between 160 and 190 milligrams
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or about .005 pounds
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to calculate out the current monetary value of a single bottle cap
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I went to a website that I absolutely love, called Quandl
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Which is basically a search engine for numerical data, Which yes I recognize makes me sound incredibly nerdy
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and checked the current market price of steel
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which as of June 11th 2015 is about $100 dollars per metric tonne
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or approximately 2,204 pounds, one metric tonne is equal to one billion milligrams so just in case your having trouble doing the math in your head
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just divide that by the weight of one bottle cap which averages out to be 175 milligrams
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and we can see that to get $100 dollars worth of bottle caps aka one metric tonne of them you'd need
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5,714,285 caps
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divide that by the $100 dollars and we can equate 1 U.S. dollar to
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57,142 caps
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That is quite the collection,
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Which makes a $60 dollar pre order for fallout 4
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worth 3,428,571 bottle caps
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our pal seth and his big bag of real world caps
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paid less then a tenth of a percent
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of what he would need for a straight trade
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seriously, he paid like 4 cents for the game, so good trade GatormacheteJr
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I'm sure you've made Gatormachete senior proud
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and hey lets be honest 4 cents for the game
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that's a whole lot more then what he would've gotten had he traded it to game stop
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or if you wanted to hang on to all your bottle caps but were still felling a little rumbly in the tumbly
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and if your a completionist like I am
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there's always more to try because they're constantly releasing brand new options every single month,
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Meaning that your taste buds are never gonna get bored
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and right now you can enjoy your first box of nature box snacks on them,
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but only at naturebox.com/matpat
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m a t p a t
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and only if you act fast,
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so save your hard earned bottle caps and head over to naturebox.com/matpat
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right now to unbox a world of taste,
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They are vault boy approved isn't that right vault boy?
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Vault boy and I were talking about it the other day, he likes parmesan garlic pop pops
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one last time that's naturebox.com/matpat for your first box of hand picked snacks
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sent directly to your post apocalyptic door step, on them.
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and now to close us out remember
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That's just a theory, a game theory!
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Thanks for watching!
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And by the way want more fallout action? Click here for my theory on the science of how you could survive a head shot
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as depicted in fallout new vegas, or
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maybe your in the mood for some other post apocalyptic theorizing. Get a preview of the new mad max game and my theory on how to survive
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the car-pocalypse and repopulate the world in your image, by clicking right here ,
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Now if you'll excuse me I've got one final date with FNAF
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and this peanut butter nam nam, nam nam nam nam nam
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*Thunder*
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*creepy music plays*
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