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Laws Matter: Facts Contradict Gun Lobby's Lie That Regulation Can't Stop Gun Violence - YouTube
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this is texas governor greg abbott in
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june of last year signing seven laws
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that made it easier to own a gun in
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texas that was all part of a slew of
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legislation that he signed loosening gun
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restrictions in the state and one of the
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laws makes it legal to carry handguns in
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public without a license for anyone over
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take a four to six hour training course
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they had to pass a written exam they had
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to pass a shooting proficiency exam or
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at least demonstrate that they have
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shooting proficiency avid signature
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eliminated all of that another one of
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those laws declare texas a sanctuary
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state for guns which basically forbids
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local agencies from enforcing federal
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gun laws so perhaps it is fitting that
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this week on friday
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greg abbott is scheduled to speak at a
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big nra forum in houston a forum on
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legislative action
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other notable speakers on the schedule
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for that event are donald trump who is
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the headliner of course senator john
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cornyn and senator ted cruz although
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tonight senator cornyn's office told nbc
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news that he is no longer attending that
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forum they say his cancellation
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has nothing to do with the shooting he
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just has to be in dc for personal
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reasons on friday
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as far as we know abbott and trump and
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cruz are all still planning to attend it
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and who knows maybe they are going to
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use the opportunity to advocate for
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i don't know simple common sense gun
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control laws maybe
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i don't know maybe they'll do it
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directly to the nra itself but i got to
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be honest with you i don't think so i
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mean listen to what senator ted cruz had
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to say this afternoon
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you know inevitably when there's a
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murder of this kind uh you see
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politicians try to try to politicize it
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uh you see democrats and a lot of folks
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in the media whose immediate solution is
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to try to
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restrict the constitutional rights of
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law-abiding citizens that doesn't work
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it's not effective it doesn't prevent
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crime
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we know what does prevent crime which is
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going after felons and fugitives and
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those with serious mental illness
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arresting them prosecuting them when
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they try to illegally buy firearms
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here's an idea senator
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texas currently does not require
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background checks for guns sold or
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traded at gun shows so if you want to
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prevent felons from getting their hands
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on guns
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fixing that sounds like
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a layup i mean the reality here is it is
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incredibly easy to access a gun
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perfectly legally in texas that's the
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truth the giffords law center to prevent
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gun violence gives texas gun laws
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an f
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literally an f they point out that it is
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so easy to get guns in texas that gangs
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actually smuggle them across the border
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into mexico they buy them in texas
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smuggle them into mexico that's how easy
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it is to get them in texas
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texas state senator ronda gutierrez told
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nbc news tonight that in a briefing with
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texas state rangers rangers said that
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the shooter in uvalde purchased two
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assault rifles on his 18th birthday
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legally
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the shooter turned 18 last monday
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now here we are today
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laws
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matter
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joining us now is robin thomas executive
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director at the giffords law center to
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prevent gun violence robin thank you so
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much for joining us this evening i know
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it has been a long day for you and
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everyone else
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prior to today two of the deadliest mass
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shootings in the past decade sutherland
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springs in 2017 and el paso in 2019 they
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both unfortunately happened in texas and
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yet republicans in texas they're still
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totally obsessed with making texas as
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legally pro-gun
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as possible how do you understand that i
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mean how is this still a winning issue
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for them politically when their
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constituents are being killed and
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they're trying to make it easier to get
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guns in their state
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well part of it is exactly what ted cruz
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was just talking about which is that
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for one thing politicians are in the
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pocket of the nra and the gun lobby and
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special interests they don't represent
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the interests of their constituents they
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don't act in the interests of public
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safety they do what the lobbyists tell
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them to do and in part they get away
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with it because they're willing to lie i
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mean most of what ted cruz just said is
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simply not true but because he doesn't
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get called out with the facts he's able
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to somehow convince people that these
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laws don't matter and as you so
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correctly pointed out of course laws
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matter texas gun death rate is far
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higher than california's where we have
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much more comprehensive gun regulation
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laws matter very much but if people
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don't believe that if they don't see it
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if they aren't given good information by
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the people who represent them then they
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might not may not be aware they buy this
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ridiculous argument about the good guy
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with the gun being the solution as
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opposed to smart regulation every other
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country in the world has somehow figured
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out
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and they point to chicago and say that
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oh you know chicago or illinois have
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some of the toughest gun restriction
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laws but the gun violence in chicago
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maine is con continually is high and gun
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violence uh is skyrocketing
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and part of the reason for that is
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because we have poorest state borders
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that's why we need federal reform
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because all of those illegal guns that
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are being found in the city of chicago
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the guns that are being found in
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washington dc and new york city they're
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coming from states with weak gun laws in
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the same way that the gangs in texas in
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mexico are coming to texas to buy guns
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because the laws are so weak it's the
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same thing in chicago these guns are
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being trafficked from states like
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indiana where there are weak laws and
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it's very very easy to just bring the
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guns into the city of chicago
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i gotta ask you i mean it is a
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well-known it is well known excuse me
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that you know before the end of june the
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supreme court uh will decide not just
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the future of roe versus wade but most
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americans actually don't realize that
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the court will also have a major ruling
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on a gun control case the court's first
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major second amendment case i would say
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in more than a decade what's at stake in
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that case and how will it impact states
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ability to impose common-sense gun
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restrictions since it has to do with new
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york
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so that case involves the restrictions
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that new york city places on who can
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carry loaded concealed weapons in public
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and for people who've spent time in new
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york city i think it makes a lot of
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sense that we would they wouldn't want a
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lot of loaded concealed weapons on in
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the streets of such a crowded busy
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chaotic city and that law which had
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those sort of requirements for what it
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takes to get a permit to carry a loaded
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weapon in new york is what's being
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challenged now if that law is struck
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down not only will it allow more people
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to carry loaded weapons in cities like
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new york but it will also impact the
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laws in other states that have similar
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types of requirements and restrictions
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like california and hawaii and new
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jersey and a whole slew of other states
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so it challenges that sort of we call it
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a permanent system around concealed
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weapons
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the bigger concern is what else the
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court is going to say in that decision
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now they could keep it pretty narrow
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just strike down new york's law which
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just means there needs to be a new law
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put in place that complies with the
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decision or they could make broad
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sweeping statements about what kinds of
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gun laws are permissible and what
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standards are applied to the
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interpretation of gun laws and that's
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what we've sort of worried about we
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expect it to be not too broad but it's
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hard to say with this court after what
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we read a few weeks ago with this roe
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versus wade decision
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yeah absolutely especially with the
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super conservative majority that it has
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robin thomas executive director at the
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giffords law center to prevent gun
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violence thank you so much for your time
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i greatly appreciate your insights
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