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it's a busy day down there give me your
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sense of how Donald Trump is rising to
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the bar that he set for himself
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yesterday when he declared himself a
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wartime president well the president is
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continuing to use that language saying
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that he feels like he's a wartime
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president he's also said that he rates
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himself a ten out of ten when it comes
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to how he's responded to this but it's
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clear that health care officials and
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doctors and nurses all over this country
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are getting very very worried as medical
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supplies are starting to run out you see
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just today there was an NBC news story
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showing that hospitals and medical
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professors are asking Congress to give
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them hundreds of billions of dollars or
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at least a hundred billion dollars but
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probably more for specific medical
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equipment and then you have the
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president saying look we're not a
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shipping company so the president's been
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clear was governor she said look we're
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not a first resort White House sources
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here tell me but that was that's being
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meant to say states need to try to take
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care of themselves and the White House
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is gonna do what it can do but it's
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clear that the White House doesn't have
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answers to two key questions the first
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is when will people who need coronavirus
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tests actually be able to take them all
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over this country there was no clear
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answer from the White House today and
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the second one is are there enough
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ventilators and is the White House going
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to be able to order enough falater's in
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time for what we knew before what we
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know will be a crush on the medical
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system the answer there was there are
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thousands of ventilators being ordered
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but the White House is not saying
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specifically how many they will be
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shipping out and whether or not there's
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a reserve enough for each American and
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that of course is pretty scary dr. Esper
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I want to ask you what you think you're
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hearing right now from Donald Trump we
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are obviously hearing these calls of the
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alarm bells being rung in all quarters
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right now and the president is answering
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them after a fashion I'm curious about
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what you think about the state of play
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out there on the front lines and whether
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what the president is saying he plans to
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do the leadership that he's giving to
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States cities the private sector the
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medical sector all the above whether
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it's adequate to the moment as we now
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get into Thursday here in this week you
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know John this has been a long time that
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we've been preparing and this is
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something that we've
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about four four months even though that
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it was only numbers in China for the
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longest time we here especially here at
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Cleveland Clinic and all around the
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state have been preparing for the
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concern that this could happen and it
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can overwhelm and so we have been
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meeting here at the Cleveland Clinic
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twice a day in the command center making
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sure that all our preparations are met
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and everything is being done as best we
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can and one of the best things we have
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been able to do certainly we have been
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able to work with the governor with the
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Ohio Department of Health and they have
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been helping us tremendously now
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certainly there's a lot of things that
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have to happen at the federal level just
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because there's a lot of cases in New
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York that doesn't mean it's not going to
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be Ohio's problem if we start seeing
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spillover and so there is a national
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response that has to happen but
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definitely the boots on the ground right
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now as we see it we are working
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extremely hard to prepare for these
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waves of infection and trying to work
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with all our partners in order to stand
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that tide to make sure that we flatten
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how many people show up at our doors
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sick at once and that's why we're doing
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all the social distancing that's why
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we're doing all the communication to
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make sure everybody knows what to do but
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doctor I appreciate your your confidence
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and can-do attitude which I think
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everyone appreciates I just I keep
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hearing listening to these governors
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listen to the people on the health care
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front lines say there's gonna be
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shortages there are already shortages
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we're talking about people talking about
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making protective gear out of bandanas
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and scarves is when you have kind of
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paint a picture of what it's gonna look
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like when this wave crashes down
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obviously it's not gonna crash down with
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the same force everywhere in the country
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but it seems like there are plenty of
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places where it is gonna crash down and
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where there are gonna be shortages what
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are the implications of that for the
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fight against this the truck the fight
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to treat this pandemic what it starts to
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hit in the places that it hits hardest
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listen that we certainly know that
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there's going to be a lot of people and
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there's gonna be a lot of people that
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are going to get sick and what we're
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also trying to do is we're trying to
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prevent sickness from coming to the
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healthcare provider because if we get
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sick then there may not be enough people
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to treat the individuals who are coming
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in sick and so we all know that we're in
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this boat together
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listen in a crisis situation in a
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pandemic all options are on the
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and certainly we know with the you know
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we're looking for m95 masking well we're
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not we don't you know where the the
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recommendations are are so that we don't
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need as many n95 masks but we can use
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surgical masks but if we can use
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surgical masks you do whatever you can
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in order to protect yourself and to
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protect your patients and we are using
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every option everything that is
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available to us and you know again
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hospitals are understand this and we are
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you know taking in suggestions and ideas
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from everyone from the nursing staff to
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the respiratory technician to the to the
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to the guard at the at the the parking
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garage everybody is is giving us ideas
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and we are taking each and every one I
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can't say you know that it's going to be
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pretty it's not going to be pretty this
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is a pandemic this is a crisis you
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prepare as best you can and let's be
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honest this this virus has been throwing
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us curveballs from the beginning and
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yeah we've missed a few times and we
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just have to get back into that batter's
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box and try to hit it some more Maya
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Wiley I want to ask you you know you
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have been a longtime player in this in
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this community here in New York and
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you've seen Governor Cuomo you've seen
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Merida Blasio react in a lot of
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different situations to some very
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difficult times I've given the alarm
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that we've heard from the governor in
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particular all week long talk a little
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bit about about its kind of assess of
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the state of your state in your city
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right now and whether you think that you
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know this possible for local government
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for the city government for the state
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government to be able to step in when
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they're not getting apparently what the
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governor has been begging for not
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getting from the federal government what
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they what they seem to need well I think
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one thing that's important to know about
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both New York State and New York City is
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that we have a tremendous number of
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public servants including the governor
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himself in the mayor himself who have
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actually been through this before so
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they we had the Ebola crisis in 2014 and
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I was working for City Hall when we had
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that crisis whether it's the state or
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the city there is a level of leadership
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that has been planning for this kind of
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emergency I think the issue is and what
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we've seen from from the governor who's
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actually raised some red flags around
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the possibility that that the Trump
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administration is still playing
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partisanship at a time when we shouldn't
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be seeing either red or blue in terms of
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withholding some financial assistance
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that New York had in the form of a
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competitive grant for hospitals you know
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he has asked for more ventilators and
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he's right - because we know we don't
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have enough when we have the most cases
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in the country one of the things that
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Mayor Bill DeBlasio did is he asked and
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this was weeks before we got to the
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situation where now our 11 public
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hospitals we have a tremendous number of
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residents who rely on public hospitals
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they don't have private insurance many
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of them may not have health insurance
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through their jobs even though they work
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multiple jobs and one of the things that
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we're seeing is that our public
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hospitals were working on finding 100
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ICU beds for each Hospital weeks before
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we were in a situation where they would
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be overrun this is not a state or a city
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in which local leaders have not been
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taking steps to do everything they
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possibly could I would say the same
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thing for Washington State and
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California Trump even praised California
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and Gavin Newsom today that can't change
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that no state or city can handle
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something of this scale without national
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leadership if you want to call this a
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war and you want to call yourself the
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commander in chief then you better
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command and commanding respect means
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demonstrating that you will do for the
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people who are the citizens of this
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country and the residents of these
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cities so Nick I ask you about this
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right I mean we started this week with
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with Governor Cuomo saying the Army
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Corps engineers I need them to come here
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we are gonna be short of hospital beds
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we're gonna be short of ICU beds
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I need the Army Corps of engineer to
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come here and start building I need them
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now right it's Thursday
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nobody's Sapir building those things
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right now the president's talked about
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trying to help Governor Cuomo he's
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talked about the Army Corps of Engineers
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he signed some some authorizations over
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the course of last days but there's
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still this kind of lassitude about the
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about the his attitude towards it you
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know the the things he said about we're
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not postal clerks all just everything
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feels like not that the president has
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not seized this moment and said although
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he's claiming to be a wartime president
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and saying okay this is what's now about
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to happen the federal government is
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going to go student body left order to
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provide everything that states need here
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the all of these private sector
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institutions but companies around the
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country that are offering at this point
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how can we help how can we make we will
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shift our production to ventilators
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we'll do whatever is necessary
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somebody's got to tell us what needs to
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be done and how to do it and when to do
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it and get some financial support for it
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none of that seems to be happening right
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now
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talk about how Donald whether whether
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Donald Trump is missing this moment and
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if he wants to try to live up to being
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what he's trying to portray himself to
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be which is a wartime leader what would
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have to happen and how can he start
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doing that I mean look the president is
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missing an opportunity here to secure
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his political future and the country's
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future and that's what makes it so
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surprising for a man who's so attuned to
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the politics of everything that he seems
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almost a bystander to his own white
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house in this crisis seems almost to be
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surprised by things that are being
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mentioned at the podium next to him or
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around him at all times you know he's
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making a comment about how the US
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government is not a postal clerk we own
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the postal system and the US military is
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probably the greatest and best mover of
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material and people in the world they
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are very good at this stuff
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and moving quickly at doing large jobs
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there's a lot of buttons he could be
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pushing and you're right there does seem
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to be this absence of urgency and I
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think on this very show over the last
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two years we've talked about what would
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happen when this president was
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confronted by a crisis that you know he
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was us you know those beyond his own
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making
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right this is partly his own making but
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we are now seeing a certain kind of
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president with a certain skill set
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confront this moment that is beyond him
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and it is a bit frightening um you
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should talk a little bit about about
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this about the stuff the president said
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today related to potential treatments
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that might be brought to bear on on the
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virus he made some statements today
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about about some about having flash red
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tape to allow for new kinds of trials of
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those drugs I'm gonna ask the doctor
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about it in a second but I'm I know
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there was some confusion down there
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today when the president said some
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things in the president a press briefing
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that then kind of had to be walked back
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by some other officials at the federal
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level talk talk us through what what he
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said and what then got walked back and
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what we now know to be the case with
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respect to some of those kind of
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promising potentially promising drug
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treatments that might be on the horizon
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well the president said that he was
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eager to get treatment for the corona
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virus out to the general public and what
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he was said he was going to do was
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change the regulations at the FDA so
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that there would be a lot of different
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drugs fast-tracked and in doing that he
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also mentioned that there was already a
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drug coming out of Africa that would
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already be fast-tracked and that people
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could already take then the head of the
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FDA actually walked that back and said
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look that drug is actually in clinical
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trials those trials of course could take
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months so this is not something that's
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immediately available to people who
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could get sick from this virus so that's
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a big difference and we've seen the
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president do this over and over again
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where he's eager to say look this is all
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that I'm doing when in fact that's not
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what's happening that goes back to the
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issue of testing he said early on weeks
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ago anyone who wants a test can get a
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test that was not true then it's not
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true now so in this case when it comes
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to these these drugs that the FDA is
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looking at they have not been approved
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yet the other thing to note is that
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there are some senior officials at the
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FDA who are very worried about the fact
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that these are being fast-tracked they
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say people could be harmed of course
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there are people who could also benefit
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from these drugs but there is the idea
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that there could be some patients who
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are given drugs that are not ready who
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could then get even more sick if they
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have the virus
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