What are the differences between NAFTA and the USMCA? - YouTube

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JUDY WOODRUFF: Just before the Senate opened the impeachment trial of President Trump,
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it passed a new trade agreement among the U.S., Mexico and Canada.
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As Amna Nawaz tells us, the USMCA accord, as it's now called, is meant to replace NAFTA,
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the North American Free Trade Agreement. And it does change or replace some important provisions.
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But many say it's hardly the overhaul that was once advertised.
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AMNA NAWAZ: The Senate sent the U.S.-Mexico-Canada agreement to President Trump's desk after
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voting for it in rare bipartisan fashion.
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SEN. CHARLES GRASSLEY (R-IA): The yeas are 89, the nays are 10. The bill is passed.
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AMNA NAWAZ: The more-than-1,800-page agreement replaces NAFTA, first signed into law by President
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Bill Clinton. But it does keep much of NAFTA intact.
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However, there are important differences as well, including requiring automobiles to have
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75 percent of their components manufactured in North America. That's up from roughly 63
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percent under NAFTA. It also says 40 to 45 percent of automobile parts must be made by
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workers paid $16 an hour on average by 2023. And it strengthens labor laws, particularly
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in Mexico, by allowing inspectors into facilities to investigate violations of workers' rights.
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Republican Senator Lindsey Graham:
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SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM (R-SC): It allows North America to be one of the most progressive
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free trade zones in the world. And our economy will be stronger going forward because of
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this new trade agreement.
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AMNA NAWAZ: The USMCA also gives American farmers more access to Canadian dairy markets.
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Before the final agreement was reached with Democrats, there were blows to some corporate
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interests. For example, one rule providing biologic drugs with 10 years of patent exclusivity
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was withdrawn.
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For his part, President Trump had long pledged to overhaul NAFTA, blaming it for the loss
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of U.S. manufacturing jobs to Mexico.
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DONALD TRUMP, President of the United States: I'm going to renegotiate NAFTA, one of the
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worst trade deals ever signed in the history of our country.
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AMNA NAWAZ: While the new deal includes money to address pollution and overfishing, it's
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been criticized for not tackling climate change, leading Senators Bernie Sanders, Chuck Schumer
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and Kirsten Gillibrand to all vote against it.
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SEN. KIRSTEN GILLIBRAND (D-NY): We had a huge once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to actually
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address global climate change, and we chose not to.
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And so I -- while the agreement did make progress, it didn't make enough.
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AMNA NAWAZ: The deal will not go into effect until Canada approves the pact. Lawmakers
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there are expected to vote on the deal in the coming weeks.
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For some perspective now on what's significant about this deal, as well as its limitations
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and drawbacks, from a longtime critic of NAFTA, Lori Wallach has been working to change the
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trade deal for more than 25 years. She is the director of Public Citizen's Global Trade
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Watch.
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Welcome back to the "NewsHour."
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LORI WALLACH, Global Trade Watch Division Director, Public Citizen: Thank you.
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AMNA NAWAZ: So, there's overwhelming bipartisan support for this deal.
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Let's starts with what you see as good in this deal. What are the improvements, especially
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when it comes to U.S. workers and the economy?
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LORI WALLACH: So the original deal that President Trump signed in 2018, the NAFTA 2.0, wasn't
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better than the original.
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But after fighting for a year with the Democrats, who made him reopen it and renegotiate it,
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the final deal that got passed improved labor standards and environmental standards, and
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ends up whacking a variety of corporate protections that would have been bad for the consumers
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and the environment.
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AMNA NAWAZ: So, we saw one of the biggest criticisms there we just heard, the fact that
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it doesn't address climate. Right?
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The argument there is, look, if a lot of those things had been written in, maybe wouldn't
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have gotten that overwhelming bipartisan support, that the modest improvements are better than
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none.
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What do you say to that?
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LORI WALLACH: There's a real difference between what you do to fix a really bad agreement
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that's causing ongoing damage.
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Over a million jobs have been government-certified as lost to NAFTA, with more being outsourced
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to Mexico every week, because real wages, they now are 40 percent lower than manufacturing
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in China.
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So, what you do to stop that flow of job outsourcing or a tax on environmental policies is different
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than what you would do from scratch to write a good agreement.
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So, stopping a bad agreement's ongoing damage is different than a real good agreement that
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you put climate standards and you fix all the things that didn't get fixed in NAFTA.
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AMNA NAWAZ: There's another specific change you mentioned to my colleague earlier.
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There was, in the previous deal under NAFTA, a mechanism under which corporations could
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sue countries if they felt like NAFTA had been violated, and that would be at taxpayer
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expense. That went away in this new deal. I understand that you're happy about that.
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But are there other things that would fall under a similar category, of things that the
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corporations would be happy to see in the deal that you thought should go away or that
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were new in this deal?
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LORI WALLACH: So, one of the best things that happened in the last year is, the Democrats
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forced Trump to remove new goodies he had added for big pharma.
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And those new monopolies would have locked in high medicine prices and exported our high-price
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policies to Mexico and Canada. That got sacked just in the last minutes, which is how the
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thing got a vote in the House.
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The things that didn't get fixed, the agreement still has the limits on buy America, buy local,
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buy green policy. Why should a trade agreement even tie the hands of Congress or state legislatures
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vis-a-vis government procurement?
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The agreement still requires us to import food that doesn't meet U.S. safety standards.
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And they added one bad, really bad new thing, which is limits on the regulation of the big
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online monopolists vis-a-vis consumer privacy or what liability they have when fake information
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or counterfeit products are sold.
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AMNA NAWAZ: If we take a step back, it's worth noting we're in a week where President Trump
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just signed this first phase of a trade deal with China. You have this new North American
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trade agreement, the USMCA, moving forward.
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Both of these have been hard fought over, at least since the beginning of the Trump
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presidency. When you take a step back and look at those, how dramatically has that landscape
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changed when it comes to the overall U.S. economy and also for the average U.S. consumer?
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LORI WALLACH: These trade agreements that are done this week aren't going to be a big
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change for consumers.
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In the long run, if the revised NAFTA works, given the rewrites, if the Democrats make
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Trump add new labor standards, hopefully, wages will increase in Mexico, and that will
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basically slow the outsourcing of jobs from the U.S.
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But it's not going to bring back hundreds of thousands of jobs, the way the president
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has claimed. Nothing makes that clearer than the fact that a lot of the U.S. auto companies
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have announced relocating production to Mexico since the agreement was done.
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So the upside is that, basically, there could be less outsourcing, there will be less corporate
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attacks on environmental and labor laws. That's a big improvement. But it's a long-term proposition
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to seek it get enforced.
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AMNA NAWAZ: Just a few seconds left. But I have to ask you, do you think any trade deal
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could bring back all of those manufacturing jobs that were lost?
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LORI WALLACH: I think that the right kind of trade agreement that takes into account
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the climate crisis, that takes into account income inequality, would distribute production
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more broadly around the world.
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And you have to do that anyway to avoid the long-distance shipping and the unified production
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that right now is threatening the climate. So the rules of trade are what are being written.
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It's not about tariffs anymore. Generally, the tariffs are cut, unless there's a penalty
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put in place.
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So the rules decide where investments will happen and who the winners and losers are.
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And going forward, this NAFTA, it's not the template for a good agreement. It's the new
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floor from which we will fight to have an agreement that really puts people and the
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planet first.
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AMNA NAWAZ: Lori Wallach of Public Citizen's Global Trade Watch, thanks for being here.
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LORI WALLACH: Thank you.