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Welcome to<i>
Winning Time: The Forum.</i>
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We are joined remotely
by one of the creators,
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writers, and executive producers
of<i> Winning Time,</i>
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<i> show runner Max Borenstein,
and executive producer</i>
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and the director
of this episode, the pilot,
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Adam McKay.
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And introducing one of
our big stars
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who plays Magic Johnson,
Quincy Isaiah.
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♪ (UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYS) ♪
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Welcome, guys.
Now, if you are a sports fan,
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you already know
that Jerry Buss
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<i> and Magic Johnson
will redefine sports
and entertainment.</i>
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But when we meet them,
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they're starting out
as underdogs with a vision.
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In the beginning, Adam, Max,
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how did you think
about finding a Magic?
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It was one of the hardest
casting tasks
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I've ever encountered.
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And in looking for Magic,
we realized like,
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he has a smile like no one.
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He has a charisma, a sparkle,
a talent like no one.
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I had a moment where
I was like, "I don't know
if we can do this."
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And then we got a tape
from Torrance, California...
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-(CHUCKLES)
-I remember, Francine,
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our casting director
just saying,
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<i> "Take a look at this guy."</i>
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<i>It was like the hair on the back
of my neck stood up</i>
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<i> and we kinda looked
at each other</i>
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and it was like,
"That's the guy."
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This guy walked in
and nailed the audition.
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Rick was part
of this casting process too.
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Because once we knew
that Quincy could act,
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and could kill it,
the question was,
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<i> "Can he play basketball
believably?"</i>
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<i>And we had Rick kind of put you
through the wringer.</i>
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-Do you remember that day?
-Oh, a hundred percent.
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You know I tried
to make you throw up?
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-I did not know that.
-RICK FOX:
You did not know that?
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I'm pretty sure we got
close though.
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In the case of finding
a Magic,
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the level with which
Magic represents
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not only basketball
but Laker nation,
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there was a level of--
I think we all felt, like,
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how bad do you want it?
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Right? You not only showed me,
in that day, personally,
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just as a person,
how bad you wanted...
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-this opportunity.
-Yeah, man.
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I mean, going back to that,
I didn't know that story
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about how hard
y'all were looking.
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I just want to say,
I'm glad it was that tough.
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(LAUGHING)
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Selfishly, you know?
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Looking back at the '60s
and '70s,
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before we even get
to the showtime era,
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how different was basketball
then than it is
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-when we find our show?
-Oh, my god.
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I grew up in the '70s
into the '80s,
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and basketball was like
the ninth sport.
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It was like baseball,
football--
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-Golf.
-Golf!
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I mean Max is right.
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Golf was bigger
than NBA basketball.
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CBS apparently was ready
to drop the league.
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Then Magic and Larry Bird
came in
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and it just jumped up,
it was crazy.
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You're finding
an underdog theme here, right?
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Where you have a Dr. Buss
who was probably, historically,
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known now for all
his championship success,
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but we find him, Max,
fighting to make this work.
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I mean what's so fun
about the show
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and finding it at this moment
in time
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is that the NBA and all
of these characters
become such icons,
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but we're meeting them
at this moment when none
of that was inevitable.
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Adam, you're in the pilot
here and you're setting
the foundation style-wise.
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How did you go about that?
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We have an amazing director
of photography,
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Todd Banhazl,
and that guy is fearless.
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We were like,
"Let's do something different.
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Let's reference the past
while creating a modern formula.
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<i> Mixing the formats, going
from old '70s video camera
to 35 mil."</i>
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Audiences are so
sophisticated nowadays.
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We knew they could handle it.
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Quincy, you're now stepping
into Magic Johnson,
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how did you prepare yourself
to do that?
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You know, after the workout
that you put me through...
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(LAUGHTER)
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I started the book, you know,<i>
Showtime</i> by Jeff Pearlman,
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and just dug into that,
and then,
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there's so many videos
on YouTube of Magic.
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Just watching him
and seeing how he acts,
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even today,
just really trying to hone into
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my version of who
he's gonna be on screen.
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Max, was Jerry West actually
opposed to drafting Magic?
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It's documented
that Jerry West thought
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that Sidney Moncrief might be
a better fit for the Lakers.
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Apparently he and Magic
still have some beef about it.
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(CHUCKLES) Okay.
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Okay.
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As we go forward here,
and we think of
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the theme of outsiders
and underdogs,
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will that carry through
a majority of this season?
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Yeah. I think that's kind of
what drew us all to this story.
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The idea that this
legendary team
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that's now so definitive and
etched in the history of the NBA
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started as a rag-tag bunch.
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I mean, you already have
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar on the team.
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Then you bring in
this over-sized point guard
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<i> which the NBA had never seen.</i>
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<i> You have this owner
that was from the outside,</i>
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and it's a great blend
of underdog champion
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going through Jerry West,
Dr. Buss.
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They all have demons
they have to battle
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and that's exactly
what drew us to the story.
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So, yeah, you'll see this
through the whole season.
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I love the battles that go on,
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from the perspective
of more than just the players.
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We're gonna be following
along this series
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where you have front office,
you have family members,
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you have players,
you have the media.
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You have everyone
that experienced showtime
as it blossomed.
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We get to see it,
through all of their eyes.
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Before we go,
we're gonna play a game
called Beat the Clock.
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Now I'm gonna give
you guys 24 seconds.
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I'm gonna ask you a question,
and we're gonna all chime in
at one time to see who can
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come up with the most
answers here.
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-We'll tell you who won
at the end, all right?
-Cool.
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Name as many basketball players
who have been in movies
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that you can name.
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-Ray Allen.
-Okay, Michael Jordan.
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Norm Nixon was in<i>
The Fish that Saved Pittsburgh.</i>
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-Bernard King... in<i> Fastbreak.</i>
-Dr. J.
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Kevin Durant.
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-Travis Ford... in<i> He Got Game.</i>
-Shaq.
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You got Ray Allen.
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Oh, God, there's someone else
in<i> He Got Game,</i>
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-there's a lot of guys in--
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FOX: You're absolutely right.
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Guys, that means
though, we have a tie
between Max and Adam.
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So let's go to a tiebreaker.
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Since nobody named Rick Fox
in a movie...
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I was gonna say!
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I'm gonna challenge you guys
to name at least
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one basketball movie
that I was in.
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-ADAM MCKAY: Well, uh...
-Ooh.
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Basketball movie that you
were in, I know
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a lot of stuff you've been in.
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But basketball movie?
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-Wait, wait,<i> Blue Chips.</i>
-Correct.
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-Ah, too late.<i>
-Blue Chips!</i>
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-Boom!
-FOX: That's right.
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Thank you, Max.
Thank you, Quincy.
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-Thank you, Adam.
-Thank you.
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Thank you guys
for kicking off
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<i> Winning Time: The Forum.</i>
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Make sure you catch us again
on the next episode.
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