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Career Advice from a Woman Who Ruled Wall Street | Sallie Krawcheck | Big Think - YouTube
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Sallie Krawcheck: So there is so much career
advice for women.
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The best career advice that you are not getting
is to invest.
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âWhat?
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What?
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That has absolutely nothing to do with my
performance on the job!â
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Yes, but it does have to do with having more
money.
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And if you are investing to the same extent
that the guys are, that will on averageâand
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has historicallyâadded to your wealth hundreds
of thousands of dollars, for some women millions
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of dollars, over the course of their lives.
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What happens when youâve got more money?
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You can play looser, right?
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You can, with more confidence, go in, ask
for that promotion, for that overseas assignment,
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quit that job you cannot stand because that
boss is such a jerk.
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Start your own business, test your own business.
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The degrees of freedom when weâve got more
money are substantial.
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And Iâll even take it all the way to: it
will also help us get to equality with men.
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That confidence in the workforce, that equality.
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Ladies, we will not be equal with men until
we are financially equal with men.
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So the best career advice youâre not getting
is to invest.
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I wish I didnât have to give you this advice.
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I wish every company out there just let you
be you; accept that youâre just not comfortable
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going in and negotiating for the raise and
not to force you to do it.
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Close that gender pay gap, pay everybody exactly
what theyâre worth, and not make negotiating
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a core part of getting compensated in this
country.
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So I wish I didnât have to do that.
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But I do.
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And so we have to accept the world as it is
today, and so ladies, youâve got to negotiate
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from the first job.
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You just have to.
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Let me give you the example why.
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So I managed a lot of people over a lot of
years and I will tell you that every year
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almost every guy who reported to me, before
bonus time would come into my office and tell
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me how much they wanted to make.
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And every guy every year typically told me
more than he was in the budget for.
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And so, think about what happens, right: Jim
and Mary.
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Jim and Mary are both in the budget for a
bonus or a raise of five each.
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Jim comes in, tells me he wants tenâI never
hear from Mary.
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I giggle to myself, âThat Jim, heâs so
crazy, you know, weâre never paying him
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ten.â
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Well comes around time to put the budget together,
give out the raises or the bonuses, and I
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knowâmy HR head and I both know Jim wants
ten.
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Well, you know, weâre not going to pay him
ten but, you know, his office door was closed
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the other day and the guys down the street
are looking for someone like Jim.
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And by the way, he made a really good point,
I totally forgot about that project he did.
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Weâll pay him seven.
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Now how much does Mary make?
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The answer usually is five.
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The right answer, of course, is three.
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Just because Jim asked for more and I choose
to give him more doesnât mean my bonus pool
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goes up.
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It doesnât mean my budget goes up.
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And so there is to some extent a zero sum
game.
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All right ladies.
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Now that Iâve convinced you, how do we approach
it?
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With facts and in advance.
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So much of the advice to us is sort of in
the meeting, in the moment.
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You have to start planting those seeds well
before.
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First of all you need to know how much you
should be making and go to a Payscale.com
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or a GetRaised or Comparably or Hiredâany
of these services that are popping up.
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Talk to your friends.
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Have two glasses of wineâor four, you knowâand
have the conversations.
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So know how much you should make.
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Have the conversation in advance with your
boss about what are, if possible, the metrics.
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How many newâyou know, quantify it to the
extent you can.
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How many new reports?
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What kind of client satisfaction score?
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How many new clients?
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What in sales?
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How many clean audits?
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Whatever it is you can quantify.
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What does success look like?
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So set that up: âThis is success for me,
for the department, for the company.
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Hereâs what I need to achieve this year.
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Hereâs what I want to make.â
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Get an agreement and then the negotiation
at the end of the year is not a negotiation.
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To the extent, of course, that you come in,
youâve done that or havenât done it.
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Never have one ask and take no for an answer.
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That if youâre told no on the raise, or
even if youâre told yes, come in with 12
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other requests, right.âI want to take a
coding class that the company pays for.
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I want to have a stint in marketing.
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I want to work overseas for a period of time.
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I want to be mentored by XYZ.
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I want to work on this big project.
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I want to, I want to, I want to.â
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And if by number 20, you know, typically your
boss is going to say yes to something that
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can turn into professional advancement or
money down the road.
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And if he or she says no to all 20 I think
youâve gotten a pretty clear message there
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as well.
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