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Dunwoody Special Called Meeting for July 11, 2022 (8 a.m. - 2nd public hearing for millage rate) - YouTube
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on july 11th 2022 at 8 a.m to order
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unless there's an objection seeing none
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the meeting is called to order
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councilman lambert can you please lead
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us in the invocation in the pledge
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at this meeting help us to make
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decisions which keep us faithful to our
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mission and reflect our values
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give us strength to hold to our purpose
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wisdom to guide us and a keen perception
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to lead us
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and above all keep us charitable as we
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deliberate
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i pledge allegiance to the flag of the
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united states of america and to the
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republic for which it stands one nation
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under god indivisible with liberty and
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justice for all
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good morning mr vinnicky good morning
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you are the only things on our agenda
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this morning
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can you see the presentation
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hey
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cool let's see if it works
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still up there
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good uh mayor and council this is the
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second of three required public hearings
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by state law uh just for the public's
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information not only did we have the
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three required hearings basically we had
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three other town halls which addressed
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this and i think if memory serves we had
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three other separate council meetings in
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there so this will end up being nine
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opportunities for public comment on the
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budget so as far as input
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above and beyond the city has gone on
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this uh let's go a little bit through
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what's required on these
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today's purpose is because the millage
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rate was not rolled back we are required
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to have three public hearings on it now
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whether or not we were moving to 3.04 or
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keeping it 2.74 we would still have to
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have the three hearings uh property tax
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is the only tax source where public
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hearings are required on income tax if
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your income goes up and you pay more
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income tax you are not required to have
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public hearings on sales tax as sales
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goes up you're not required to have
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public hearings on increases in sales
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tax property tax is the only state tax
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where this hearing is required uh the
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city of dunwoody has proposed to
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increase their millage rate from 2.74
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mills
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which to be honest for most homeowners
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is really 1.74 mills
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raise it to 3.04 mills which would still
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nominally and you've got this backup in
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your uh packet for tonight would still
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be nominally the lowest rate in dekalb
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county for any city um
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that levies it we still have one city
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that's not living um so in that case
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even with this increase dunwoody would
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still be the lowest tax rate in the area
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uh for a new home and we use the 500 000
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barometer here we're looking at about a
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57 increase a year and then for those
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that are frozen we're staying around at
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42 so no matter what your house is in
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this area would see their first tax
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increase since incorporation and that is
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a fact however for anyone that moved
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into the city since incorporation or
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what here is the first one your taxes
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have never gone up in the entire history
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that you've lived here just to clarify
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that is strictly about municipal taxes
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just remember they everyone gets one
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bill so
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while you're doing the slide
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just want to make sure that people
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understand that the county or the
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different county funds may have raised
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as well as the school system
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uh the most obvious uh question with
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this is if the city is financially
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healthy which linda neighbors finance
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director myself do say that we're
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financially healthy uh why is there a
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need of tax increase and what has
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happened is that the ongoing revenues
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and the ongoing expenditures do not
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match when the city was created and if
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you look at the incorporation study that
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created it it was envisioning a minimal
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police system and a minimal park system
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and both those now are at a full-fledged
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city level and in fact with the opening
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of brook run and the purchase with two
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more properties we have a crown jewel of
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a park system the tax levies that were
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done the 2.74 mills and the 1 mil
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exemption and the property tax freeze
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were not even taken into account during
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the carl vinson study in fact the carl
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vinson study indexes property tax for
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inflation uh therefore it actually kind
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of says the freeze wouldn't exist uh
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there are flaws in the study there were
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assumptions made at that time and
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current revenues and current
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expenditures do not meet
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could the city do something and not
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raise taxes yes it would not increase
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services to the level that the citizens
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are looking at
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uh this that you see on the chart are
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the three scenarios for
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what we've got for this year's budget
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the one on the left is the original
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budget is passed the middle one is one
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based off of 2.74 mills and the third
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one is based off of 3.04 mills to go
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from top to bottom what you're seeing is
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the starting fund balance estimated 22.5
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million
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tax revenue other revenues expenses and
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then the ending fund balance and the
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ending fund balance is what we need to
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concentrate on and at the bottom there's
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two numbers to look for months reserved
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which across these three are 7.91 7.25
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and 7.67
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that number at minimum needs to be four
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so in that case
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in all scenarios of doing this we're
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still significantly above fund balance
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now the city could also use fund balance
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to operate over the next five years it's
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not recommended by staff nor is it
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recommended by best practices ongoing
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revenues and ongoing expenditures should
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match we have the certain thing where we
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basically hotel motel we're still
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suspect even though those numbers have
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gone up uh so we're still being
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conservative to all our projections the
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last number you need to look at is the
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bottom one and that's the structural
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deficit when the budget was passed in
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last october we were going to plan to
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use 4 million or 3.9 million of fund
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balance
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based upon new revenues we're looking at
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2.2 and this would switch it down to 1.1
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million of fund balance which is a very
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manageable part if the city ever went to
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go get rated by a rating agency the
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structural deficit and the use of fund
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balance but would be one of the main
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categories you would look at so the city
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always needs to be proactive in
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improving this
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next up is the short-term forecast which
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is what the city council has started to
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do over the past basically three years
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it started to look at doing a true
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five-year funded cip and also looking at
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operating forecasts now one of the
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things this does is it does very
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conservative revenues and we'll agree
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with that and this is also the beginning
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of the forecasting part of the city as
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it grows into what i call its adolescent
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stage
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basically you need to make sure the
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green line stays above the blue one
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that's your number of months reserved
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above the required reserve if you take a
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look this crosses in the 2025 area we
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are fairly comfortable in the finance
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department and with uh city staff at
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still keeping this because we're very
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conservative revenue with this 3.04
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increase not only could we open certain
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parts as we go along we could also do
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four percent raises and keep up with
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health care costs to keep ourselves
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competitive with our neighboring
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jurisdiction just again i'm sorry but
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you said the 3.04 increase we're not
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increasing it by three mills just want
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to be clear that we speak what we're
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saying we've talked
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description of what we're doing so we're
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in the increase would be what's the
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number point
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thank you
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uh let me get back on track um okay the
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real impact to homes if you take a look
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here your change is basically from 33 to
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69 on there it's
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basically minimal for any house and
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again you're one of the lowest as far as
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city rates in the area taking a look at
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your tax bill as you can see most of it
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is dedicated to the school system even
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with this change the city portion would
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only be less than five percent
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uh driving the revenue change even
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though we do have a growing tax digest
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it has not been consistent throughout
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the city's history we've had three or
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four years of
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a decrease in fun decrease in the digest
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and in that case we we don't want to
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project three or four percent we tend to
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project around two percent and this year
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we came in at a six percent growth so
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there is growth that's happening it's
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just not dependable off of it your other
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revenue sources are pretty much stagnant
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and frozen when we start looking at
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fines they don't increase over time when
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you start looking at things such as the
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smaller tax amounts they don't tend to
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increase
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this again shows your increase of year
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over year for your
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digest uh positive and negative as you
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can tell there was three years where it
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went down for various reasons um this is
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kind of like one that we're starting to
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show that because property and
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residential taxes are frozen the share
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of the tax burden has fallen to
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commercial properties and we get much
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more from commercial than we do from
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from residential
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uh so what's the main goal the main goal
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of raising the millage cap is to make
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sure that over the next five and raise
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to the millage cap due the next five
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years
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so we can make it and to make sure that
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since property taxes are frozen we've
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adjusted it as we can with a cap that
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was instituted by the city leaders
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and with that i'll
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open the floor for public comment
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um so i need to open the public hearing
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is there any objection to opening the
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public hearing
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seeing none
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the public hearing is opened
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and now
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we need to have public comment we'll
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have 10 minutes against
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and 10 minutes four correct and so we
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will start with 10 minutes for
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the
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millage rate
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increase
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and if you could just step up and
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introduce yourself please
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good morning mayor council robert
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wittenstein 1146 bordeaux court uh i'm
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here to encourage you to go ahead and
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raise the millage rate
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um but i'm also going to suggest
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something that you already know which is
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that the real crux of the problem here
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is
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the assessment freeze
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for residential properties and so i'm
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also going to suggest that one of the
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things you make a priority of is to talk
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to the state legislature about
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sunsetting that over the next five years
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and get an item onto the november ballot
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either this year or next year
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that gradually over the next five years
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sunsets
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that freeze that's the real crux of the
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problem and as long as that exists
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you're going to continue to have this
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structural problem so by all means go
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ahead increase the millage rate but
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particularly in an environment where
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inflation is rising faster right we got
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we got a real breather for a number of
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years there where inflation was so small
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that it didn't really increase our
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expenses that much from year to year
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those days are gone and so now
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this increase to 3.04 is not going to
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hold us for very long and the real the
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real issue is that we gotta we got to
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get our tax digest producing the taxes
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that will support the residents who are
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using the services thank you thank you
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is there anyone else who would like to
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speak for this change in the millage
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rate
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just step up and introduce yourself
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please morning city council my name is
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ali i will first start by thanking you
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for getting up here this morning
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forgetting you guys this morning it's 8
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am monday morning we're getting here at
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8 am monday morning so thank you for
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that um second i actually back up
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everything robert say and um i think he
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makes some excellent points i do want to
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encourage city council to increase the
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millage rate um when it comes down to it
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in the simplest form i do trust city
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council and the people who work in the
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offices here that if you're requesting
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it or if you're suggesting any type of
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military increase i am sure you've done
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due diligence i'm sure that it is
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necessary i'm sure it is the right
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decision so based on trust i would move
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forward with um saying we should
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increase the millage rate i did do my
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own kind of uh open records request i
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have looked in a little bit into the
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dunwoody checkbook i've looked into the
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reserve funds i do agree especially in
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our environment with inflation we kind
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of need to stay ahead of it so i'm
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perfectly fine with it
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i did run the numbers as well and it is
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it is um accurate i mean it comes down
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to like a cup of coffee from starbucks
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uh
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a month to be able to improve our
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quality of life if the money is going
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towards police departments if the money
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is going towards parks i can't see how
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anyone could really object about that i
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think a lot of people really just want
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to make sure the money is used correctly
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i trust that you guys will be i haven't
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seen any giant escalades lining up the
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front parking lot but i did see a bunch
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of new police cruisers so we already
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know that the money is generally being
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used correctly i do want to encourage
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that you know if this extra revenue
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comes in that we strongly
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look into possibly allocating a lot of
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those funds into the police department
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i've done a lot of research into our
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neighboring
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our neighboring cities and they have
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kind of been very proactive with this
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they've done a lot of money at their
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police departments and the biggest fear
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as i've spoken to in other city council
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members is city council meetings and i
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will in the future again is ideally
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looking at um ideally looking at just
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making sure we stay competitive we stay
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safe as a city that we continue growing
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as a city just as individuals would save
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more money in this environment i think
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it makes all the sense for the city to
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do so as well so i support this decision
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i encourage the decision thank you
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thank you
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all right is there any other public
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comment
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seeing none i unless there's an
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objection i close this public hearing
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seeing no objection the public hearing
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is closed and now it's counsel
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and um us if we have any questions or
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comments for jay anybody
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i just
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want to clarify that we have police
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salaries on the agenda tonight correct
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mr vinicky that is correct right so
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great anybody else
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seeing none
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then um i need a motion for adjournment
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i move to adjourn by rob
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second second by tom any objections
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seeing none
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uh the motion carries unanimously we are
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adjourned see you tonight
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