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U.S. Economy Shrank In The Second Quarter, Signaling A Possible Recession - YouTube
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let's get right as promised to those
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breaking economic numbers the second
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quarter GDP numbers just released and
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they do show another contraction for a
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second consecutive quarter which could
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signal which could signal the U.S in
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recession this comes after the Federal
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Reserve raised interest rates again
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yesterday with the Fed chair saying the
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path to avoiding recession has quote
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narrowed let's bring in NBC News senior
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business analyst and host of the 11th
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Hour on MSNBC Stephanie rule Jonathan
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Lemire Mike Barnacle caddy K all still
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with us as well Steph good to see you so
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let's dig into this uh Janet Yellen
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Jerome Powell others have said this is
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not what a economy and recession looks
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like with low unemployment plenty of
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jobs available to people but yes
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inflation at 40-year high and now by
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some definitions as you know better than
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most this does show this new number on
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the GDP that the economy is in a
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recession so what's the word
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it's a very very complicated situation
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listen people don't like to hear that
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the economy is shrinking but remember by
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raising rates that's what Jay Powell is
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trying to do and to Simply say we have a
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good economy we have a bad economy come
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on Willie we have to remember what's
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actually causing inflation you go to war
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in Ukraine we've got supply chain issues
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that are still lingering from covid this
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is complicating things but you just laid
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out a few of the points when you
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normally have a Contracting economy you
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don't have sizable wage growth you don't
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have unemployment as low as it is right
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go out down any Main Street in America
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and you're going to see Help Wanted Help
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Wanted help wanted and even housing
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while people are concerned that housing
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prices are getting softer they are still
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above pre-pandemic levels and remember
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just a few months ago we were hoping to
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get some relief in the housing market so
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what we have on our hands is a
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complicated confusing economy I know
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politicians don't like that because that
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doesn't work on a billboard it doesn't
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work when you want to beat the other
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side up but that's what we've got
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yeah and you know the inflation
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obviously plays into that if it's a
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semantic game almost that if we're in a
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recession or not to a lot of people it
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feels like one if you're running the
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small businesses you just talked about
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and you can't find anybody work in your
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shop or if you're paying a ton for
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groceries and gas it feels like a
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recession
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I believe that's exactly it so when
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you're going consumer confidence is down
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of course more confidence is down go
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thing and things are more expensive so
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naturally you one would feel that way
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what we need to do right now is figure
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out what people need to do to be saving
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because what we're heading into more
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than anything is uncertain times but to
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say that this Administration isn't
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addressing things they are whether
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you're talking about chips whether
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you're talking about Broadband whether
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you're talking about lowering the K the
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price of pharmaceuticals you're actually
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seeing Democrats try to make moves
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that'll make life easier and more
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affordable for the American people and
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while it's very easy for Republicans
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right now to beat on the inflation story
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because everybody out there is talking
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about it they have you not yet offered
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any alternate Solutions it's complicated
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yeah and certainly the White House has
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been out there in recent days pushing
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back against the idea of this being
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labeled a recession even if it
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technically uh meets the the criteria uh
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Stephanie you know certainly there also
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good news yesterday the belief that
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Senator manchin is signing off on this
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bill that hopefully they believe will
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help bring down inflation but shows to
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how fragile this is going to be Senator
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Dick Durbin just tested positive for
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covet and they of course can't pass
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reconciliation without all 50 votes this
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means he's unavailable next week so walk
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us through if they are able to get this
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done whether it's next week or weeks
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ahead what sort of impact could this
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legislation have to try to bring down
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inflation which of course would be
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another sign of an economy that actually
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is healthier than what we're seeing at
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the GDP
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listen Jonathan are you going to walk
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into a grocery store two days from now
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two days after something gets signed and
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prices are going to drop absolutely not
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but this goes back to what Willie said
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moments ago it's about how people feel
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it's about what is the game plan going
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forward so if this Administration can
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get something done it's really big and
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the thing for the administration to do
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rather than keep racing around talking
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about the definition of a recession when
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my mother goes to the grocery store and
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she's complaining about the price of
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milk she's not worried about the
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definition of recession what they need
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to be doing is talking more about that
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more affordable Broadband here's a
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website you go to once they get things
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lowered potentially in terms of
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pharmaceutical pricing showing people
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how to access that right now we're just
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sort of in this circle with this media
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blitz and it's not doing much for anyone
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if Democrats can pull this off though
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it's going to be a really big deal
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stuff that's a certain amount the FED
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can do domestically there's a certain
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amount of work White House can do
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domestically but I'm looking at the
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headlines from Europe at the moment
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today and it's about a massive surge in
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Energy prices because the Russians are
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basically cutting off the gas to Europe
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we know the problems of trying to get
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food out of Ukraine is there a risk that
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as we head into the fall and the winter
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some of those
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um some of what we're already seeing in
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Europe spills back over into the United
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States and inflation becomes even harder
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to get under control
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listen there is that risk right we have
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to remember what difficult times we're
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living in the the war in Ukraine is
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pushing this inflation situation worse
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all around the world and we talk about
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it all the time inflation isn't unique
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to the United States it's happening
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everywhere but again when somebody is
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out there buying gas even though it's
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getting cheaper than it was a month ago
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it's more expensive than it was a year
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ago and people at the gas stations in
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New York New Jersey and Connecticut
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aren't thinking about the price of gas
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in France and this is a very
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unpredictable situation obviously the
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president did just recently go and speak
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with MBS we're working on pumping more
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we're working on energy Independence but
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that doesn't happen overnight
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foreign
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