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ChronoLogic Talks To Etherisc about Crypto Loan Insurance - YouTube
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rI'm Renat Co-Founder of Etherisc
Etherisc is a decentralized insurance protocol
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to collectively build insurance
applications so at 20 year old for
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example in China could earn 3% of
revenue insurance company in the United States
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so as a result we have a world we
building world where independent workers
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not large insurance companies but
independent workers make a fair share of
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created value and consumers get cheaper
better insurance products that's
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currently not available and investors
get access to risk as an asset class
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which is currently not available to
regular investor
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you're right they have to you know
invest in the stock market and for some
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insurance company that they don't really
like and then the insurance company has
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all kinds of practices that they don't
even maybe agree with so we need this so
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much for so many different reasons
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yes no one likes insurance companies and one
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of the key problems so people ask so
what problem exactly that you trying to
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solve there are two constituents the
there are consumers and there are
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developers that we're serving the
consumers we serve them indirectly
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our work would work with
developers they are building insurance
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applications called keepers so but the
consumer is in their problem that's what
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drives this whole transformation the
first of all the asymmetry of power as
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an individual consumer you really have
no power to force insurance company to
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pay or not and...
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yeah you can try to call them
and be in customer service for
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hours but then eventually
you have to hire a lawyer
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exactly and very few people
have funds time connection or even
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understanding how to get what they're
entitled to and so we have situations
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multiples like where consumers are in
with position when there's a meeting
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bona fide truthful claim but if one
insurance company says that the amount
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will be much smaller so we have one situation
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one guy reports that they submit six
number claim sick digits claim for the
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destruction on the house and the
insurance company Mapfre in Puerto
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Rico they gave them an offer for 4-digit
and there is no way to do
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anything unless you sue them right
you can completely regulator but
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insurance companies have no incentives
to pay more because they have the
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maximizing profits there are for-profit
companies and so the symmetry of power
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is is one problem the second problem is
the cost of this trust premium is that
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for every dollar that you let's say sent
through let's say Lloyd's for example
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or traditional insurance companies to
share your risk with other people I know
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it's in 2016 the insurers who shared
gave dilutes the premiums they only got
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49 cents back so the 51 was kept as a
profit as a processing like all cost of
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marketing right so it's very inefficient
risk transfer mechanism where it cost a
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lot it's very expensive to just share
risk between us right
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so it's called it we can't let the trust
premium so the trust premium typically
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is half of what you give to the risk
pool is being returned and while they're
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making money on it on investment income
while keeping this your funds right so
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this is the consumer problem but
developers have are also in no position
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to solve it because large insurance
companies are not incentivized to let
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developers build insurance products
they're effectively a government
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sanction oligopoly with big capital
having licenses right you cannot really
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build an insurance company yourself
right unless you have a lot of connections
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capital right so what Etherisc does provide
the common infrastructure for individual
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developers to build the new insurance
products in infrastructure such as smart
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contract templates ui/ux templates
templates or business plans and even
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rental of insurance license so anyone
can start their own insurance company by
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renting these components and getting
components in open source form it's like
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you take an insurance company open
source the whole thing the risk models
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the actuarial work the business plans
approval documentation to get the
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various approvals right and and so our
goal is to enable multiple keepers to
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have 5000 individuals to operate build
and operate their own insurance company
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where they're entitled to percentage of
revenue to underwriting profit that left
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after the premiums and claims are paid
and investment income that they can
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decide how to distribute to keep it or
send it back to the insured pool so it's
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like 5,000 Minimum in profits
this is what we are creating and the
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first ones are already the first
products when already live on main net
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flight delay insurance was available on
test net in September 2016 for
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developers flying to Shanghai last year
we added real license to it so it the
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sales of fully regulated insurance by a
smart contract began on October 25th
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developers who flew to DEVCON in Cancun
77 bought the policy is five got the
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payouts for the delayed flights and
after we looked into smart contract
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there was three ether remaining but no
one else to pay all flights landed so
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that was the first underwriting profit
generated by a decentralized insurance
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company smart contract yes
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I'd like to ask you quickly about crypto loans
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because you know ChronoLogic has a
peer to peer crypto loan platform and you
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were talking about the you have this in
your vision to have some type of pool
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yeah well it's not just vision now it
actually it was one of the proposals
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made so people make proposals for
interest products that they want to
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distribute or they get their token
economy is needing in order to get mass
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adoption so having a safety net is a way
to get mass adoption it's safe for
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participants to come in and start using
a new product or a DApp or protocol and
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so one of the networks crypto backed
lending networks came to us asking to
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build or have one of our members of our community
to build an inference product that is a
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collateral protection insurance for
lenders lending their money to borrowers
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that put crypto is a collateral right
and many lenders are not comfortable
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especially institutional ones to land
in a way where in addition to credit
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risk there are a lot of other risk so we
decomposing this for now a number of
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crypto back lending networks and building
them a product that will allow to the
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lenders to be protected against
devaluation of collateral not due to
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volatility but because of either the
underlying project got damaged to
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the point where the value of this token
is like drops by 90 95 percent or more
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or the link if it's tokenized asset
maybe there was a problem there
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there are different risks associated...
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there are a lot of different risks so we're building
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a policy for a number of crypto back lending
networks who are now joined during our
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working group that provide the
requirements and they receive a policy
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where the lenders on their network would
be protected they can elect that the
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loans that are they're issuing must be
insured or could be insured optional right
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the chronologic loan platform can be part of that
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yes so potentially any we're inviting all
crypto back lending networks as well
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as those lending networks that will
operate unsecured loan marketplaces to
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join the working group and receive
access to the insurance policy which
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will pay the lender in case something
happens with the underlying collateral
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whether it's a bug hack or maybe a
borrower simply made if they didn't pay
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taxes the government could take it away
from from a lender so these are various
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fix that we're working on to build
this policy
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Q: how can people go to learn more about eitherisc?
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they can go to etherisc.com
they can go to github
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our telegram channel is very inviting and we have a
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number of working groups who will direct
any interested party to one of the
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subway ecosystems of operating on Etherisc
protocol that are building insurance
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products so we have a need for those who
could be product managers for data
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scientists to provided the risk models
for example for full stack developers
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that can operate an interface that
relayers distributors can embed into their
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websites to sell insurance
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yes and they people come in they
develop what they like in the in the
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product which they like and then they
put a price on it and there's a provide
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their ethereum accounts so that portion
of the insurance premium could put a certain
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percentage of a fixed price per API call
for example could be deposited to their
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individual ethereum accounts so that
individuals not corporations get a fair share of value
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excellent thank you so much
for being here at EdCon and
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teaching us about Etherisc
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yeah thank you very much
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