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Breaking Down the TSP Investment Funds (Best TSP Fund) - YouTube
Channel: Tim Wolffe
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If you are a federal employee and you're聽
investing in the thrift savings plan this聽聽
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video is a must watch for you because if you only聽
invest in what you think may be best but is not聽聽
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actually the best option... even a one to two聽
percent difference rate of return year over year聽聽
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over a long period of time say聽
30 years could have the effect聽聽
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of you making hundreds of thousands聽
of dollars less had you just picked聽聽
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the better fund. So let's decide which fund聽
is going to be best for you in this video.
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Let's break down the different tsp聽
investment funds that you can choose from.聽聽
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There's only a total of five funds within聽
the tsp that you can choose from. The c聽聽
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s i f and g fund. Now you may have also heard of聽
lifecycle funds, lifecycle funds are just made up聽聽
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of the c,s,i,f and g fund and those are chosen聽
from the tsp. The first of the five options you聽聽
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can choose is going to be the c fund. The c fund聽
is the "common stock index investment fund".聽聽
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Now the strategy of the c fund is to match聽
the standard and poor 500. The s p 500 index聽聽
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which is a broad market index made up of stocks聽
of the 500 large to medium-sized u.s companies.聽聽
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So you're investing essentially in the u.s聽
stock market .So the C fund's performance聽聽
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is based solely off of how the s p 500 is doing.聽
Now if the s p 500 is doing well the c fund should聽聽
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be right there with it, if the s p 500 drops a聽
little bit the c fund is going to drop as well.聽聽
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They're judging the performance of the c fund up聽
against the s p 500. Their goal isn't to make you聽聽
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necessarily the most amount of money possible, the聽
goal of the c fund is to match the exact returns聽聽
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of the s p 500. For example, the top 10 holdings聽
within the c fund right now: apple is number one,聽聽
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microsoft, amazon, facebook, tesla, google,聽
berkshire hathaway, johnson johnson,聽聽
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jp morgan and chase... these are all big聽
companies that you have heard of. So you're聽聽
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essentially investing in the us economy when you聽
invest within the c fund. Now let's look at the聽聽
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most important thing- the rates of returns over聽
the last 10 years the c fund has averaged 16.18%聽聽
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year-over-year average rate of return for the last聽
10 years. Now this is really good considering the聽聽
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benchmark for the last 10 years has been anything聽
over 12 percent is typically a decent investment.聽聽
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Now who should be invested within the c fund? Well聽
if I was a person that wanted to invest in the c聽聽
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fund I would be someone who would want to invest聽
aggressively in u.s stocks of big successful聽聽
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united states companies and I'd want my rates of聽
return to be equivalent that of the stock market聽聽
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or the s p 500. Number 2 is going to be the s聽
fund- the "small cap index investment fund".聽聽
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The investment objective of the s fund is to聽
match the performance of the dow jones, which is聽聽
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a broad market index made up of stocks of small to聽
medium us companies not included in the s p 500.聽聽
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So this sounds kind of similar to聽
the c fund. It is in a way that the c聽聽
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and the s fund are invested within u.s stocks of聽
generally well-known companies. But, the s p 500聽聽
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is going to be mid to large size companies...聽
the dow jones is going to be small to mid-sized聽聽
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companies. So they judge the performance of the聽
s fund and the success of the s fund based on how聽聽
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closely it's performing to the dow jones fund. So聽
if the dow jones has a good year the s fund will聽聽
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have a really good year. If the dow jones has聽
a bad year the S fund will have an off year as聽聽
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well. Now here's the top 10 holdings within the s聽
fund: some of the companies you may have heard of聽聽
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some of them you may not have heard of, We have聽
square, uber, zoom, snapchat, workday, docusign,聽聽
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lululemon... reputable companies, successful聽
companies they just don't have the large cap聽聽
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size as a company like apple, google or facebook聽
that you'd find within the s p 500. Now let's look聽聽
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at the rates of return for the s fund over the聽
last 10 years it has averaged 14.98%. Year-to-date聽聽
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it's up 11.8%. In the last year it's up 19.9%. So聽
who invest in the s fund? If I was someone that聽聽
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wanted to invest in the s fund I would want to聽
invest aggressively in u.s stocks of successful聽聽
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companies small to mid-sized companies and I'd聽
want my returns to be equivalent of that of the聽聽
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dow jones or the stock market. The third option聽
you can choose from is the I fund. Now "i" stands聽聽
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for international, it's the best way to think聽
about it. So the i fund is the "international聽聽
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index stock investment fund". Now the objective of聽
the i fund is to invest or match the performance聽聽
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of the msci eafe the europe/australian/far east聽
(that's what it stands for) index. Now the eafe聽聽
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index invests in major companies from 21 different聽
countries outside the united states and canada,聽聽
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mostly europe, australia and asia. So this chart聽
right here shows you the different countries聽聽
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that's invested in... Like I said it's up to 21聽
different countries, almost a quarter of it is in聽聽
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japan stocks or japan companies, then the UK is聽
the next biggest one, then france, switzerland,聽聽
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germany, even has companies a little bit invest聽
in portugal, australia, israel companies.聽聽
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So it's going to give you a large spectrum聽
of international stocks. Now the i fund is聽聽
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meant to mirror the eafe index fund which is聽
one of the most popular international stock聽聽
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indexes that you can invest in. So they judge聽
how well the I fund is performing based off of聽聽
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how well it's tracking compared to the eafe index.聽
But let's look at the rates of return because this聽聽
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is the most important thing that we want to look聽
at. Over the last 10 years it has averaged 7.62%,聽聽
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in the last year alone it's done 10.97%. So we聽
noticed a decent drop off here from the c and聽聽
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the s fund which were u.s stocks. So international聽
stocks as a whole have never performed better than聽聽
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u.s stocks over a long period of time- more than聽
10 years. Now a lot of people say well you should聽聽
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be invested in the c the s and the i fund and have聽
a little bit in the i fund. Well why? Why would I聽聽
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invest in the i fund if it is never, over a period聽
of time, extended period of time done better than聽聽
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the C & S fund? Why do I need to diversify within聽
the i fund? Well there may be a bad year in the聽聽
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u.s stock market and the international index does聽
better. Yes there absolutely is going to be. There聽聽
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has been there will be there will continue to be,聽
however over a period of time despite off years聽聽
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within the u.s stock market the international聽
index has never done better than the u.s index.
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So if we look at the lifecycle funds right, I聽
said lifecycle funds are basically the tsp's聽聽
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way of choosing your investments for you and聽
they choose how to allocate between the c, s,聽聽
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i, f and g fund. So if you look at the 2040聽
fund which is for people that are going to聽聽
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retire around the year 2040. That has 25% of its聽
investments into the i fund! It actually has more,聽聽
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two and a half times more, invested in the I fund聽
than the s fund. It only has 10 percent invested聽聽
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in the s fund. After we've just gone over the聽
rates of returns for the s fund is at least聽聽
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half times, fifty percent better, almost double聽
some years that the s fund performs better than聽聽
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the f fund. But people are so convinced that they聽
need to diversify it's the only safe way to do it聽聽
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even though we look at the lifetime performance聽
of the fund the 10-year performance, the five-year聽聽
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performance, any 10-year performance over the last聽
50 years the i fund has never made out to beat the聽聽
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s and the c fund. But hey if you really feel a聽
burning desire to invest in it I would suggest聽聽
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nothing more than 10% into the i fund. So聽
if I was someone that wanted to invest in聽聽
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the i fund... I would be someone that wanted聽
to invest in international stocks maybe didn't聽聽
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believe in the us companies or the u.s stocks聽
or just wants a little bit of diversification.聽聽
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The fourth option is going to be the f fund. The聽
f fund is the fixed income investment fund. Now聽聽
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the investment objective of the f fund is to match聽
the performance of the bloomberg barclays u.s agg聽聽
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bond index. Which is a broad index representing聽
the u.s bond market. So this is going to be one聽聽
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of the most popular ways that we judge the u.s聽
bond market. So just like the s p 500 is the聽聽
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most popular way to judge the u.s stock market,聽
well the bloomberg barclays u.s agg bond index聽聽
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is going to be the most popular way to judge the聽
u.s bond market. So essentially you're investing聽聽
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in u.s bonds when you invest within the f聽
fund. So the c, s, i fund were all stocks-聽聽
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now the f and the g fund are going to be bond聽
investments. So similar to the other investments聽聽
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this is meant to mirror the u.s agg bond index聽
fund. It's judged off of that. So I'm going to聽聽
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pull up the rates of return here with the f fund,聽
the C fund and the s, comparing it side by side.聽聽
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So year to date the f fund is actually, you've聽
lost money if you've invested in the f fund:聽聽
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minus one percent, compared to 23 percent within聽
the c fund and 11% almost 12% within the s fund.聽聽
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Now let's look at the 10 year. So over聽
the last 10 years the f fund has done聽聽
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just over 3 percent average yearly rate of聽
return. C fund has done 16% and almost 15%聽聽
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for the s fund. When we look at the f fund聽
compared to the c and the s fund it has done about聽聽
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five times worse than the C & S fund over the last聽
10 years. Over the lifetime of the fund it's done聽聽
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more than half worse than the c & s fund. Over聽
the last year it's... it's just not even close,聽聽
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the F fund has performed horribly over the last聽
year because the u.s stock market has done really聽聽
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well, bond market not as much. For the f fund when聽
we're talking about you investing in the f fund as聽聽
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opposed to the c of the s fund we may be talking聽
about millions of dollars of difference that聽聽
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you're losing out on because you're investing in聽
the f fund because you think you're diversifying聽聽
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yourself. So someone that invests in the f fund聽
would be someone who wants to invest in u.s bonds,聽聽
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who wants a very very safe unfluctuating聽
type of index that they can invest in.
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The fifth option is going to be the g fund.聽
Now the g fund like the f fund is investing聽聽
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in u.s bonds. G fund stands for the "government聽
securities investment fund" and the investment聽聽
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objective of the g fund is to ensure preservation聽
of capital and generate returns above those of聽聽
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the short-term u.s treasury securities.聽
So essentially you can compare the g fund聽聽
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to like a high-yield savings account, just聽
like a bank savings account- you put money聽聽
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into a bank savings account you know you're not聽
going to lose any money. It's your money within聽聽
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the bank savings account, the bank will slowly聽
pay you some small small amount of interest,聽聽
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(a dollar, ten dollars maybe a hundred dollars聽
a year) and that'll help grow your bank account.聽聽
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Well the g fund is essentially just a little聽
bit higher yield. A little bit higher interest聽聽
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on your money to allow it to just sit there you're聽
going to make maybe one percent, maybe less than聽聽
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one percent, sometimes 1.5% on your money. But the聽
money that you put into the g fund is guaranteed!聽聽
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It's backed by the us government, meaning聽
you will never lose money within the g fund.聽聽
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You can come out with the same amount of money聽
and not necessarily have made any money on it,聽聽
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but you're never ever going to put money into聽
the g fund, ex: if you put ten thousand dollars聽聽
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in there you're never going to have to look at聽
your account one day and it's going to be under聽聽
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ten thousand dollars. You'll always have聽
at least the ten thousand dollars in there聽聽
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well. In the simplest terms I聽
could put it, it's essentially聽聽
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you loaning money to the federal government,聽
they're opening up a bond, you're investing in it,聽聽
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they're going to use the money that you聽
loan them to invest in infrastructure,聽聽
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government programs, to make up for the national聽
budget every single year if there's a deficit聽聽
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and they're going to pay you back your money聽
plus a little bit of interest. Now the g fund,聽聽
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the reason this is a problem is because in the u.s聽
inflation typically goes up 2%-2.5% per year. So聽聽
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the cost of items is constantly going up right.聽
A coca-cola may have cost five cents 20 years ago聽聽
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and now it may cost three dollars. So the cost聽
of the coca-cola inflated over time so you聽聽
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can no longer buy the same thing today for the聽
same amount of money as you're going to have to聽聽
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10 years from now. So your money is going to have聽
to grow to keep up with that inflation. So when聽聽
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you retire you can't just keep the same amount of聽
money because things are going to continue to go聽聽
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up in price. Your money is going to need to make聽
some money at least to keep up with inflation.聽聽
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The g fund does not do that, so the g fund in聽
the last year has done 1.33 percent... over聽聽
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the last 10 years = 1.94%, so it has not kept up聽
with inflation within the g fund. So even though聽聽
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you're maybe you invested ten thousand dollars聽
and you still have ten thousand dollars in there,聽聽
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it doesn't have the buying power as ten thousand聽
dollars you put in ten years ago. So you聽聽
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are in a sense actually losing money when you聽
invest in the g fund because you're losing money聽聽
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to inflation. If we look at how much money is in聽
each fund, the g fund has a total of 267 billion聽聽
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dollars invested in it! It has more money invested聽
in the g fund than any other fund within the tsp!聽聽
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That's honestly disappointing because that聽
267 billion dollars last year made 1.3 percent聽聽
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when it could have made almost 20% in the c聽
fund. So this is why you need to watch this聽聽
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video and get into your tsp and pick the funds.聽
Now let's look at the actual lifecycle funds,聽聽
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like I said before they're slowly changing out聽
of your control to invest more conservatively聽聽
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as you get closer to retirement. So it's going聽
to increase the amount that's invested in the聽聽
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f and the g fund. So if we look at the L2025聽
fund: so people that are about to retire. Now聽聽
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these people might have chosen this investment 50聽
years ago and now it's slowly morphed into this-聽聽
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almost half of their investment is in the g fund.聽
So they have a million dollar portfolio they're聽聽
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getting ready to retire they have five hundred聽
thousand dollars invested in the g fund. They聽聽
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have less than five percent invest in the s聽
fund, they have less invested in the c fund聽聽
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than they do the g fund... even though the c聽
fund has done about 20 times better than the聽聽
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g fund. And that's what they're expecting聽
to live off of for the rest of their life.
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Now if you want a more in-depth look聽
at the overall how to master your tsp,聽聽
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the rules and regulations, how it functions,聽
more than just the investment options,聽聽
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go ahead check out this video which I'll link聽
up here and in the description down below. All聽聽
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about how to master your own tsp. If you're not聽
sure whether to pick a roth or traditional tsp??聽聽
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They're different, roth means you pay taxes now聽
you don't pay taxes later, traditional means you聽聽
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defer paying taxes now and you pay taxes later, I聽
have another video breaking down the comparison of聽聽
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the roth tsp and the traditional tsp I will link聽
that down below. You can check that out next.聽聽
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And lastly if you don't know what to do with your聽
tsp when you separate, you left the military,聽聽
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you retired from federal employment, you have聽
a couple different options you can choose from.聽聽
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Check out this video right here I'll also link聽
that down below breaking down what to do with your聽聽
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tsp when you leave federal service. Thanks for聽
watching guys! I will see you in the next video!
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