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JUDY WOODRUFF: Generation Z, the group born
after 1996, is starting to see its oldest
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members graduate from college and enter the
work force.
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While much has been said about how millennials
have reshaped the modern workplace, members
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of Generation Z are beginning to chart their
own course, with a very different set of expectations
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and outlooks for their first jobs.
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Economics correspondent Paul Solman met up
with financial journalist Beth Kobliner to
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try to understand what all this means, and
to find out how Gen Z is approaching the world
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of work.
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It's part of our weekly series Making Sense.
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BETH KOBLINER, Personal Finance Guru: This
is WeWork.
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PAUL SOLMAN: WeWork, where, for a monthly
toll, you secure a spot in a shared work space
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for the young, Wi-Fi, free beer, free coffee
in inspirational mugs.
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BETH KOBLINER: "Always half-full."
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PAUL SOLMAN: "Make a life, not just a living."
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So, this is this whole...
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BETH KOBLINER: These are like very much affirmations.
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PAUL SOLMAN: And perfect for college grads
just moving into the job market, right?
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But is follow your bliss really a good idea
at this point?
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BETH KOBLINER: I don't know.
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I wasn't about following my bliss.
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I was about moving out of my parents' house.
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PAUL SOLMAN: But WeWork wasn't designed for
old-timers like me or even much younger youth
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money guru Beth Kobliner.
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Architect Miguel McKelvey, whom I interviewed
a few years ago, co-founded it in 2010 for
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fellow Gen X'ers and millennials.
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MIGUEL MCKELVEY, Founder, WeWork: We're a
community company.
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PAUL SOLMAN: A hopping, hip sanctuary for
self-starters built to accommodate any work
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schedule and the jobs of the future.
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MAN: WeWork is the office space of tomorrow.
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PAUL SOLMAN: So, is this the future of work
for the next generation, Gen Z?
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We gathered a diverse group of soon-to-be
college grads.
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What's the reaction to a place like this?
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MAN: The second I walked in, I was like, wow,
this is nice.
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WOMAN: Because it has so many colors, it would
be, like, more thought-provoking.
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MAN: Two thumbs up.
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Good.
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PAUL SOLMAN: So the optics appealed.
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But are high-risk/high-reward startups their
dream, like, Fourpost, say?
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FRANNIE SHELLMAN, Senior Operations Manager,
Fourpost: Fourpost is a shopping experience
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for today's family.
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PAUL SOLMAN: The 18-person firm runs retail
pop-up shops featuring trendy brands like
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Polaroid -- yes, Polaroid has made a retro
comeback.
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So, it's like a cool department store...
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FRANNIE SHELLMAN: Way cool department store.
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PAUL SOLMAN: ... for smaller brands that aren't
going to open their own outlet at a mall?
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FRANNIE SHELLMAN: Yes, absolutely, or large
brands that want test the market, like Marshall
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speakers is one.
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Urbanears is a great one, the headphones.
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You guys are young and cool, so I'm sure you
have heard about them.
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PAUL SOLMAN: I'm old, and I have no idea what
you're talking about.
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(LAUGHTER)
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FRANNIE SHELLMAN: They are candy-colored headphones.
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PAUL SOLMAN: OK, cool company.
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But our Gen Z'ers had practical questions
for Fourpost manager Frannie Shellman.
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SAAD KABIR, Student: Compared to like a larger
company, right, do you guys offer like a comparable
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salary?
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FRANNIE SHELLMAN: Yes, definitely.
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So I would say probably in the 50s range.
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Like, that would be entry level.
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BETH KOBLINER: Just happens to be the national
average, the national average starting salaries
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for college graduates, $50,000.
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JERMAINE CAIL, Student: A typical day of work,
how do you -- from start to finish, how would
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that look like for you?
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FRANNIE SHELLMAN: We get in mid-morning, and
then we're usually working through lunch.
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There's a lot of late nights.
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That's something to expect with a start-up,
but no one here is going to say, if you need
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to go home for a family thing, you can't go.
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We have the benefit of being able to work
remotely.
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PAUL SOLMAN: So, flexible work with the great
allure of all start-ups, grow fast, move up
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fast, the dream of millennials, who consistently
rank career success and then a good work-life
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balance as top priorities.
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But Gen Z'ers?
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Kobliner set up a game to test their order
of workplace preferences.
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BETH KOBLINER: Here are five qualities that
people look for in a job.
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PAUL SOLMAN: Salary, diversity, health insurance,
meaningful work, mentorship.
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We will give you a little time, less than
we gave the kids, to guess their choices.
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Well, tied just below the top, a diverse work
environment -- and Gen Z is the most diverse
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generation in our country's history -- and,
big surprise, a good salary.
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LAUREN QUESADA, Student: When you go to college
you, you're like, OK, I need to focus on something
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that can fund me, my husband, my two kids,
my house with a white picket fence.
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So I think that maybe the anxiety is not in
getting a job.
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It's in getting the right job.
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BETH KOBLINER: This school is $70,000 a year.
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PAUL SOLMAN: As we saw with Gen Z high schoolers
in a recent story, the fear of being stuck
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on the low road of an ever-more two-tracked
labor market always lurks.
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Gen Z suffered through the anxiety of the
Great Recession as kids, so small wonder they're
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economic pragmatists.
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A UCLA study found that eight in 10 college
freshmen, Gen Z's first wave, think becoming
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well-off is a top priority, the highest level
in the study's 50-year history.
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But even more important is securing that first
job; 88 percent of graduating Gen Z'ers say
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they chose their majors with a job in mind,
like Saad Kabir, who began, like many of his
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friends, in engineering.
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SAAD KABIR: My brother is a lawyer.
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And he would tell me the people he graduated
law school with, many of them didn't even
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get a job after law school.
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And it was, like, hard because the market
was oversaturated.
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But if you go to a market where you know that
there are jobs, I guess there's no anxiety
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involved.
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So, since I did education, I'm not as worried,
because, in New York City, we always need
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teachers.
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PAUL SOLMAN: For similar reasons, Lauren Quesada
majors in clinical psychology.
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LAUREN QUESADA: My family always says that
I will never be out of work because as long
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as they're alive, there'll be people with
problems.
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(LAUGHTER)
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PAUL SOLMAN: But here's the answer to the
quiz: All but one of our students said their
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top job priority was meaningful work.
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How many of you guessed that?
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Here's Jacob Clemente, for example.
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JACOB CLEMENTE, Student: Meaningful work for
me means like both something that I really
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care about and really, like, I want to make
a difference in and something that I think
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could make a difference and help other people
out.
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It's definitely still important to me that
I'm able to make a living and able to support
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a family someday, but I definitely want to
love what I'm doing and not dread going into
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work every day.
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PAUL SOLMAN: Jermaine Cail intends to become
a pediatric surgeon.
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JERMAINE CAIL: If it's not meaningful, what's
the point, in a sense?
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If you're not really into what your patients
are really telling you, why are you going
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into medicine?
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PAUL SOLMAN: But that prompted one last question
from me.
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So, have all of you been told by professors
or parents or whomever that you're going to
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probably have to change careers?
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MAN: Yes.
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PAUL SOLMAN: And that caused Beth Kobliner
to wonder...
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BETH KOBLINER: Where do you guys learn job
skills if you realize you haven't learned
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them in college?
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JERMAINE CAIL: I would probably go to YouTube
or go to some type of Web site that can show
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me how to do something, like, very quickly.
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PAUL SOLMAN: Missy Dreier echoed Jermaine
Cail.
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MISSY DREIER, Student: I, like, recently was
working on my senior thesis.
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And I had to last minute learn how to code.
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And I had never taken computer science or
anything like that, but I actually found that
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just kind of Googling was super helpful, and
I was able to do it.
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PAUL SOLMAN: And maybe this is why Gen Z can
prioritize meaningful work, because even facing
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career impermanence, specific skills are easier
to pick up than for any generation before.
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For the "PBS NewsHour," economics correspondent
Paul Solman, reporting from New York.
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