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B2C Marketing Strategy With A Potential Customer - YouTube
Channel: Kyle Milan
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Can't win them all.
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But certainly can try.
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Okay I've been working like three jobs.
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Probably why I never see y'all.
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Probably why I never have time for the fake
friends.
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I won't be y'all.
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Been balling.
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But it's looking like it took a time out.
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Okay I'm working on a Wednesday then up again
the next day.
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Something's always popping man.
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I skip a leg day.
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So we've got some things that we can show
you guys when we get there as far as there
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was a couple years ago there was one particular
campaign that we managed for and we can show
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you the way.
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It's changed slightly on the web as far as
the webpage they have now versus what it was.
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But we can show you kind of the way that we
walk through starting with website, landing
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page, then shooting the video, and then we
push that out on social.
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And it doesn't take as long to heat up.
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There's no reason why you wouldn't want to
use it at home.
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You guys going after like what, Michigan and
stuff like that because it's local.
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Possibly doing something with their colors.
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You're trying to get into the tailgating aspect.
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And in that environment and then running some
simple social ads.
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And I learn very quickly how obsessed Texas
is with football.
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Especially UT so that's where possibly doing
something where you can not just do a photo
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shoot but try and get video content getting
people that can do an Instagram live, Facebook
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live, or things like that while they're tailgating
and having.
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That's where people tend to follow trends
really quickly.
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And down here if people see it they just jump
all over it.
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I mean it's insane.
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If you can somewhat control how they know
about it, then you can control the path that
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they go down.
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And trying if you're directing them either
to your site or let's say you did something
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for direct to an Amazon purchase, and drive
people there there's really no reason why
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they should go and purchase it at retail unless
they decided not to buy it and then saw it
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later.
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If they Google search it to do research, which
is something that every consumer is going
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to do, trying to then control what shows up
and it's all you've got that first page.
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You've got all your Amazon stuff there too.
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There's no reason for them to purchase online
at Depot.
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Because in theory they wouldn't know unless
they were served an ad by Depot because they
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were looking for something else to then drive
them there.
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That's where if you go really hard and we've
done this before, because most of the companies
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that we've dealt with with these types of
consumer brands, either a lot of times they
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won't sell on their site.
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They just push people to purchase through
Amazon.
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Just because they didn't want the complexity
of setting up shopping carts and stores on
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their site when they can just say Amazon's
already got it.
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It's essentially the same thing to us whether
they're purchasing direct to consumer because
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it's through Amazon.
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So driving the traffic to Amazon to purchase.
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They were okay with.
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But on the flip side of it, dealing with the
retailers.
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We've ran into issues with that where they're
going below price or when they get into selling
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older stock, a lot of times retailers are
still at the higher price whereas they're
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running stuff on Amazon at 20% cheaper just
to move it and that's somewhat controlling
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that inventory because they are the cheapest.
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People aren't paying them SRP.
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So it's a tough balance, but if you can control
the outbound and somewhat of the inbound and
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push really hard on digital and be consistent
and be very optimized, you should be able
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to drive way more traffic through the channels
that you want versus letting them go through
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retail.
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Because at the end of the day, retails going
to take whatever percentage you guys agreed
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on.
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While the demographic has pro accounts and
Home Depot cards and Lowe's cards and things
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like that, if they maybe don't do it as much
as their spouses do, but they all have Amazon
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accounts, Amazon Prime.
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It's just as convenient.
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We just have to get them to go there instead
of seeing something ahead of time.
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So that's really where if you can somewhat
control how they know about you, and then
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when they do the research, what they actually
see.
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That's worth it from my standpoint because
even the $30 is worth that.
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Even if you have a higher cost per acquisition
because of that but you're then doing it direct
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to consumer and I mean that's just, it's really
just a control thing.
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Kind of like with your website, controlling
what they do and don't see, what they can
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and can't go into.
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What can they click?
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Controlling that UX optimization to where
you want to walk them down this path to get
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them to where they want to go but you don't
want them to have free range to just click
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anywhere.
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And while I'm sure you guys do get there,
Amazon contact information, stuff like that
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and you could do some marketing to them.
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It is a lot different when they purchase directly
through you guys.
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Talking about the website, I know you guys
don't want to do a complete redo because you
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have recently.
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Not right now.
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Well, not right now.
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There's things that we feel have to be done
because dollars are just wasted.
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Just minor things to somewhat control the
path you've led on, the experience they have,
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getting sign ups, and things as simple as
the home page, the home page video is your
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most popular video that you guys have at least
when I clicked on it and looked at the YouTube
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traffic and the views.
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It was the most popular one.
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But then near the end of that, it then goes
into the Kickstarter pitch.
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So little things like that that if somebody
is going to watch it, the would then be confused
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so change now that, change now newsletter
subscriptions and where those call to actions
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are, how easy is it really to purchase looking
at the eCommerce side of when you click add
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to cart.
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What is that process like?
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Is it the most efficient?
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Are people going to get frustrated?
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But the looking honestly at the end of the
day data.
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What is your number one page?
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What is your number one through five pages
of when people land where do they go from
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there?
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So looking at the behavior and analytics and
then where do they exit.
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Because if you get a lot of people that go
to a certain choking point and then exit,
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then that's telling you something about something
essentially wrong.
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And when we talk last time when Connie was
on the phone you guys implemented that tracking.
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What was the name of that company?
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Hatcher.
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Yeah.
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And we're doing the full story but essentially
it's the same thing where you're able to see
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that behavior and look at it.
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But that's where we want to make those changes.
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ASAP because it could affect tremendously
just from the get go.
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But the way that we're broken down is she's
out of New York office.
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She handles the web dev side.
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When we get a new client, we deal with the
strategy together, but she runs with the come.
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That's her heavy background for almost a decade.
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And web development, she handles that.
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Building off landing pages, making sure that
everything is optimized while on my side we
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handle the monthly marketing aspect.
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So she can push at the same time that we're
doing things so that way it's not from a time
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standpoint it's not six, eight, nine weeks
before you can do something.
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She's doing her thing.
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We're setting up on our side.
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We're coming together to make sure that everything
in sync.
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But it's a way just to get things faster.
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And then making sure that all of the creative
is in the pipeline to be created strategic
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to whatever the platform is.
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So if it's Instagram or going vertical with
any sort of graphics, not just from a size
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standpoint but just also how it's positioned,
email marketing, doing a combination of what
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we've seen that works is doing a combination
of not just what I call a Home Depot ad.
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That's high graphics and it's full banner
with and it's got all these images and things
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like that.
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Sometimes depending on what size of list you
guys have, making a more basic and fundamental
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to make it appear as if you guys are sending
a personalize message and not like an ad flyer
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to them from a standpoint typically can produce
some pretty good results because when people
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pull up an email that looks like an ad sometimes
they're very quick to jump off of it.
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So we build up that strategy with the email
and same with the PBC because they're all
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going to be going to some place.
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So we want to make sure that landing page
is going to be most optimized with content,
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with squeezing them into call to action and
getting them to do whatever it is.
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But that's kind of the foundation then we
just work backwards into how exactly we're
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going to execute what type of budget is there,
how much do we want to allocate to which PBC.
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What is the strategy?
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How does it make sense for?
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Are we going to run Google ads?
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Are we going to do social?
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Who are we going after?
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So that's kind of the way that we work into
it when you look at just a media campaign.
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And we want to make sure that we just say
all right this is how we would like to do
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it.
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But that doesn't matter because if you guys
have resources or don't that's going to change.
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Because of the amount of dollars that you're
spending in media spend, they have to look
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at it daily.
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They would be looking at it daily.
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We would be responsible for that aspect.
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We would be looking at weekly just to look
at trends week over week.
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Look at it monthly for trends.
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Communicating to you guys what's going on
so that way you're more overall management
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level.
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And sometimes having other people involved,
you may see something like oh two years ago
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we did this for this thing.
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And this is what happened.
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Or you start to see something that we don't
know because of your brand.
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But for the most part we're always the ones
that are managing budgets and how much you're
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willing to spend on certain bid placements,
managing the creative with you guys, getting
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input, and proving it but then having you
guys be there for that high level conversations.
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That's traditionally how it is.
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But like I said we have some clients that
say that they want usually they just want
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more involvement in the creative.
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None of our clients want to touch Facebook
ads or look at reports and graphs and stuff
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like that.
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So the way that we work like I'm sure a lot
of agencies that you guys talk to, is we use
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teamwork projects.
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We bring you into our system.
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If you had a system that you wanted us to
go through we're open to it but typically
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we force our clients into our system.
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You guys have a login to a URL.
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It's all cloud based.
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We post everything through there.
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We typically do not email if we can at all
avoid it because we want everything to be
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captured in one central location.
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And then we just set up different categories
for things.
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So creative would be under a certain category,
images, graphics, copy.
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Those are all different documents.
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And that you guys literally jump in and you
can look at it and then just type approved.
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Everybody gets notified instantly when that
happens.
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So for our clients we're every week we're
pushing out a new, we just call them brand
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to graphic which you guys have on your Facebook
and Instagram.
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We're pushing out new pieces of content every
single week for them along with doing written
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content for some more clients, highly technical
white papers and case studies and things like
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that.
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But it's got to get pushed out weekly because
then it's all about timing and people want
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to see that you're going down, you've got
a lot of movement in that space and you're
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a subject matter expert.
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Like your product is very good, things like
that.
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But from a Google standpoint, that's what
they care about.
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They need to see new everything.
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And videos, they will put above written word
almost every time now.
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Having specific content pages.
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Even if you have a page on your site that
goes after a specific theme or keyword but
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not having that page be accessible through
a menu and having it hidden in a link on one
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of your pages where somebody can get to it
but it's not directly to it.
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You can create tons of content like that strictly
for SCO reasons to boost you up on certain
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positions.
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The bounce rate is so ridiculously high that
you know that either the ad is not much for
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the people or the traffic that you're getting
is wrong because the intent of what they're
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trying to do is wrong.
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So I would audit that first and see.
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I mean if it's traffic that is 30% bounce
rate then you're getting high conversions,
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I would keep it going.
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But then also focus on the non branded, but
if your bounce rate's high, your conversions
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are low, page engagement isn't there.
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I would have to audit what is.. do they tell
you what they're doing from a digital standpoint?
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Like key words they're going after, like share
any of that?
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No.
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Okay.
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So we would basically need to reverse engineer
that.
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We would try terminology to see if they're
coming up.
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If they're not, then either they're not thinking
about it or not yet.
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We would not want to disclose that to them
obviously.
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But there's ways that we can reverse engineer
where they're at and try and go after more
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industry type key words and get positions
there.
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When I was in working for people, I had agencies
that would do that all the time.
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Since I don't come from the agency world it's
not in my blood to do it and I hated it.
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I hated getting little invoices and I hated
getting invoices at the end of the month for
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all these extras.
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To me if it's a partnership stuff's going
to come up.
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Maybe we're heavy with more workload that
month versus the precious month but at the
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end of the day it's going to wash out and
it's going to be a win win.
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So yes, to creative, no to management.
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Unless it was a completely new channel.
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If you're talking about doubling or tripling
your monthly spend, possibly but typically
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only creative.
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We talked about strategy behind kind of how
we want it to be seen.
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We did the shoot for that video.
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We used their voice over person.
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They already had some flexful standards with
the graphics of editing that they wanted us
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to adhere to.
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But then managing pushing that out into social
and getting audience and traction back to
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the site.
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That's what it always came back to.
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That's why I just feel like it's most important,
the landing page, wherever you're sending
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it to has to be on point and that has to be
done first because your video can be great,
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but what's the action that you're trying to
get them to do.
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You're trying to get them to buy it.
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They have to go to your site to do that.
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So you have to make sure that all those things
are in alignment.
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We've reached out to him a couple times and
had communication about doing a collaboration
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because he started doing a vlog and she's
was on content.
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He's be someone that he just has a reach.
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Just putting one in front of... that's what
he's all about.
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Tough, rugged, like hunters, fishermen, guys
like that.
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You put camo on anything, they're buying it.
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Don't look at the price tag.
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Same thing can apply to this.
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I mean when we were doing and we talked about
this on the phone, we were doing charger pack
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that was the portable jumper kit where you
spend 80 bucks to jump your car.
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And it just sits in your car.
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You charge it at home.
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They had one that was more advanced.
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It has USBs and radio and all this other stuff
to it.
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But they're going after the normal consumers,
but then when they went heavy after the guys
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that are hunting and fishermen and throw a
camo print on it, that thing went insane.
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Because they just want to spend money on that.
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And you talk to them and like it doesn't matter
if they're the CEO of a industrial automation
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company or they're the production worker that
runs the machines, you throw camo on it or
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say that it's for this, they will spend an
ungodly amount of money.
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You don't even necessarily need a plug in
to do this.
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Plug ins are typically for efficiencies, right?
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Like to do things quickly but things like
this where you're looking at to me this is
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just CSS code and some HTML and some basic
some JavaScript code.
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You wouldn't need a plug in necessarily.
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Peel back the layers.
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I mean Word Press is the best CMS but it's
also it's the most open and it's the most
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complex at the same time in some regards.
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But when you look at the theme and say what
is this alleged theme conflict, there are
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work arounds to where you can have it to a
sub domain.
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That's a new theme.
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It's only for this.
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It's only for subscriptions.
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Maybe eventually that theme takes over on
an overall redesign but let's at least go
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down the path of how can we sell more, not
how can you work within the constraints of
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whatever this person is telling you.
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So then on Amazon, you guys would be able
to add, so if I'm a business owner, I go into
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my business Amazon.
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I want to subscribe through Amazon.
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We can't have that.
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Right now.
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Okay.
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So like that could be something.
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Because that's always popping up for me.
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Oh yeah.
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And you guys see it too.
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I'm sure even when I'm buying stuff at a personal
level it's like subscribe and save.
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And I'm like no.
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And I just want it once.
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But you can do that to where doing it to a
default subscription for a "discount".
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Having the option on there.
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But I've talked to them like six times, seven
times over the last couple months going through
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the different round changes.
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I mean I love the product.
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I want us to get the project because I love
the product and the brand and what we can
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do with it.
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But at the end of the day it comes down to
who they're most comfortable with.
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Can't win them all.
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But certainly can try.
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