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- [Narrator] This is Duke University.
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- I'd like to tell you
about a research project
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on corporate culture
that I've been working on
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with Cam Harvey and Jill Popadak from Duke
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and Shiv Rajgopal from
Columbia University.
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This project's been supoorted
by the COLE Center here
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at Fuqua, and by CFO Magazine.
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Now if you read the headlines,
you see corporate culture
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often gets blamed or gets credit
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for dramatic corporate events.
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So for example the VW emissions scandal
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and recent events at Wells Fargo,
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we read about corporate culture leading
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to maybe a bad outcome.
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With Google, corporate
culture gets at least some
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of the credit for Google
having such a fantastic
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and successful company.
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So corporate culture is everywhere,
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and I have to admit I
approached this research project
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as a bit of a skeptic.
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What exactly is this corporate culture?
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Is it really as important as
these headlines say it is?
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And if it is, how does it work?
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These are questions
that I wanted to answer
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and our research team
wanted to try to answer.
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So what we did is we went out and surveyed
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1,900 CEOs and CFOs
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from around the globe
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to ask them about corporate culture.
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What they think of it.
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How it works at their companies.
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We also interviewed companies one-on-one,
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executives from companies
one-on-one, that represent
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the 20% of the market capitalization
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of the U.S. stock exchanges.
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So we had quite a large
number of companies
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and a lot of depth and
importance of those companies.
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Now it took 50 MBA students
as research assistants
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to help us pull this off.
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We're really thankful for that help
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and we couldn't have done it without them.
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Alright, first question: is
corporate culture important?
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Yes, executives tell us resoundingly
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corporate culture is very important
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and it affects many parts of the company.
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So we went about trying to address this
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in two different ways.
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One was we gave executives a long list
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of possible value drivers,
things that create value
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at their companies.
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And we asked them to rank those items.
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And it turns corporate
culture came out on top,
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the biggest value driver at companies.
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More important than the strategic plan,
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than the operating plan,
more important than the CEO,
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and me a finance professor, more important
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than the finance function of the company.
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Okay, so corporate culture very important,
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it came out on top.
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Not just in the United
States but around the globe.
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In Africa, Europe, in
Asia, in Latin America,
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we saw culture showing
up as either number one
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or maybe a close second.
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So culture's very important.
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Second way we addressed this
is we just straight on asked,
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"How important is corporate
culture at your firm?"
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And here about 90% of executives told us
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culture is either important
or very important.
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And most of them said very important.
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So we've established then
that corporate culture
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is very important.
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The next question is what is it.
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What exactly is corporate culture?
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So remember I told you we
interviewed a lot of executives
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and here's a couple of interview
quotes I'd like to give you
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to give you a sense of what culture is.
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I'll paraphrase.
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The first is that corporate culture
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is like the tendons in our body.
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The tendons hold together
the muscle and the bone
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and they let our muscle and
bone and body do the work
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it's intended to do in a
healthy and productive way.
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Okay, like that.
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Culture is what helps the
company reach it's potential.
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Okay, holds the company
together, if you will.
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Another example is in the
example of an orchestra.
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Corporate culture is like sheet music.
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You can hire the best trumpet
player, the best violinist,
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and if they're not playing
on the same sheet music
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you won't get a very good outcome.
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But if you have the culture,
if you have that sheet music,
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and they're playing in the
same tempo, the same cadence,
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then you can have a wonderful outcome.
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Likewise the culture
is what helps a company
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reach its potential.
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It helps the employees march together.
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So those interviews give us a
nice idea of what culture is.
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But like true academics we want
to put more structure on it.
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We wanted a little framework,
a little model if you will.
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So we relied on existing research
and kind of built on that.
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And what existing research says
is there's kind of two ways
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you can break down a company.
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One part is the formal institutions, okay.
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And these formal institutions
are things you can write down:
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the governance of the company,
the compensation policies,
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the hiring and firing practices,
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you know kind of tangible things.
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Those are important.
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People have done a lot
of research on them.
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We're not researching them
so much in this paper.
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On the other side, you
have the informal aspects
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that we call corporate culture.
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And culture has really
two main components:
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the values and the norms.
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Okay, a little lingo.
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But the values, they're sort
of like the 10 commandments.
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They're chiseled on stone.
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They're the things we aspire
to, that we'd like to achieve.
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But the norms are actually
the day-to-day living
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as we strive to reach those values.
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And one of the main
contributions of our paper,
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in the academic sense at
least, is to kind of provide
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evidence that these norms
are very very important:
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the day-to-day living of the values.
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In fact, we're one of the
few papers to focus on norms.
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And our conclusion is,
without the norms the values
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and these other things
don't matter very much.
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You can look at a recent
editorial by the former CEO of IBM
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in the editorials of
the Wall Street Journal.
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And he says something very similar.
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Values, you look along websites
you see very similar values
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across companies.
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But the norms, where the feet
hit the ground if you will,
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the living out of the
values, the norms that is,
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is really what matters.
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So how does culture work?
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You need to have values,
norms, and these formal things,
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the compensation policy for
example, working together
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and reinforcing each
other to actually achieve
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an effective corporate culture.
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So you need all of these aligned.
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Now a little more detail,
how does culture work.
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What we wouldn't want to do is think,
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"Oh, if I get a good culture,
I'll get a good outcome."
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What we'd rather have you think of it
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as really a two-step process.
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The second step is, if I
have an effective culture,
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I get the desired outcome.
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But the first step, and the one
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that we're really more focused on, is
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"What do we need to do to
achieve that effective culture?"
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And here it's really again
the norms, the values,
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and these formal aspects
like the compensation policy
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and governance have to all work together
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to give you an effective culture.
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And this is what we think
companies should focus on a lot
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is what it takes to get
an effective culture.
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What are some of the outcomes
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from having an effective culture?
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Or an ineffective culture as it might be?
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I'm gonna talk about four things briefly.
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If you look in the research paper,
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there's probably a dozen more
outcomes you could talk about,
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we could talk about.
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One is investment risk.
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We just lived through a financial crisis:
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a deep depression, or
deep recession excuse me.
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And what we've noticed
is some companies seem
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to take on too much risk.
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Now what the executives
at these companies tell us
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is that having a bad
culture is what leads to
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companies taking on too much risk.
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A little surprising to
us, a number of companies
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told us their companies
take on too little risk.
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They're too satisfied with the status quo.
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And again it's the
culture isn't quite right
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to encourage the company to
take on entrepreneurial risks.
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So bottom line here on investment risk
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is if you have an effective culture
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you take the appropriate
amount of investment risk.
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Alright, ethics.
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85% of executives tell
us that when the culture
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is not right, it can lead to unethical,
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or even illegal, actions by employees.
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So it's not just the
headlines that we read about.
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It's actually 85% of executives saying
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they need to get the culture
right at their company
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or things could go sour.
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Third, short-term versus long-term.
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Sometimes it's said that
in the United States
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companies focus too much on the short-term
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and they should focus
more on the long-term.
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Again, executives tell
us that when they have
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the bad outcome focus too
much on the short-term,
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that's cause the culture's
not working right.
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When they have the good outcome
focusing on the long-term,
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it's because the culture is working right.
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They have an effective culture.
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And then finally, let me give
you a more specific example:
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mergers and acquisitions.
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Very important investment
decision if you will.
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So here we ask if your company
has a target company in mind.
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And it's very aligned
on the operational side
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and the target's doing
just what you want it to do
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to acquire it and bring
it into your company.
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But the culture is not properly aligned,
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so you have a misaligned culture.
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When that happens, we
wanted to ask executives,
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"How much of a discount would you require
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"to acquire that target?"
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And that would give us a sense of
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just how important culture is.
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So misaligned culture,
how much would that reduce
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the price you're willing to pay?
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And we thought we'd hear maybe 15%, 20%.
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In fact, the main thing
we heard is most companies
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wouldn't pursue an acquisition at all
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if the culture is misaligned.
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So that kind of tells us
just how important culture is
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in general; but also, in the
M and A context, how important
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it is to align the cultures
before you proceed.
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Alright, let me give you
a little more detail here
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on some of the statistical stuff we did.
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So far I've been at pretty high level.
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So we ran regressions
where we tried to explain
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how does a company get an
effective corporate culture
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that would lead to creativity.
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So let's think of creativity
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or innovation you might call it.
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Well the value that is going to lead
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to creativity is adaptability.
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So a company that has a
value where it can react
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as times change and as
the environment changes,
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that's a value that leads to creativity.
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But, as we said before,
it's not just the value
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that matters, it's also the norms.
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So what are the norms
that lead to creativity?
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It's developing new ideas organically
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within your company, and
the employees having comfort
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in offering and receiving critiques.
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If that's the work environment you have
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on a day-to-day basis
where you are developing
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new ideas organically and
giving and accepting critiques,
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that's the environment
that leads to creativity.
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Now interestingly, there's
another value that was listed
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but had a negative effect on creativity.
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When a company is really results
driven, results oriented,
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maybe too focused on the bottom line,
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that does not lead to creativity.
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It actually hurts it.
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Alright, second example, ethics.
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What value leads to ethical behavior?
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Well, integrity is such a value.
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That sounds wonderful,
but what are the norms
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that are required, the day-to-day living
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that is required in order
to achieve that value
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and to achieve good ethical behavior.
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Here, trust among employees
is the most important norm
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and also willingness of the employees
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to report unethical behavior.
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So if you have that happening
in your work environment,
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you get the good positive
ethical outcomes that you desire.
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Now there's a lot more detail in the paper
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that you can look at if you want.
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I'm just trying to give
you a sampling today.
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Alright to summarize so
far, corporate culture
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is first order important.
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We think of culture as being
made up of values and norms.
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The norms are the day-to-day
living of those values.
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And we think of it in a
two-step process with the values
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and norms working together
along with other things
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like compensation policy
give you an effective culture
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which gives you the outcomes.
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So that sounds all nice,
but do all companies
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have effective cultures?
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If it's that easy, does
everyone achieve it?
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No they don't.
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About 15% of companies tell us
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they have their culture
right where they want it.
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The rest don't.
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And in fact about a third
of companies tell us
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they need to have a considerable work
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or substantial overhaul
to get their culture
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to where they need it to be.
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So about a third of
companies say they have
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a lot of work to do.
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How do you improve your corporate culture?
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Alright, starts with leadership.
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The leaders must define the culture
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and they must live those
corporate and cultural values.
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We're not talking about
the board of directors.
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The board of directors hires the CEO.
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But the CEO and the
leadership team are the ones
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that instill that corporate
culture into the company.
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Now it's very important that the culture
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permeate the mid-level management
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and the rank and file employees also,
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or of course it's not going to succeed.
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So we need employees
of all levels to buy in
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and to live the culture
on a day-to-day basis.
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Second point, the company must
invest in corporate culture.
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It must dedicate time
and resources to instill
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and to reinforce the
culture at the company.
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So this involves recognizing
when employees act
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in a way that's in
accordance with the culture,
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celebrating those achievements,
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and even having promotional
and hiring decisions
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based on achieving the
culture of the firm.
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And finally, this is a
continuous, long-term commitment
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by the company.
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This is not something you achieve
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in a weekend retreat somewhere.
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This has to be happening week
after week at the company
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to really get the culture
to where you need it to be.
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So I told you at the beginning,
I started as a skeptic.
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Well our research team
has concluded that culture
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is in fact very important.
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And I hope I've been able to convey to you
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some of the ways that
culture works at the firm.
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I got two research papers out
there that you can look up
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if you want more details.
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The first paper has a lot
of the statistical analysis
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from survey results.
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The second focuses on the interviews.
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