CAPTIVE Insurance Agent PROS and CONS: Captive vs Independent Insurance Agent TIPS FOR BEGINNERS - YouTube

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So if you're getting into the life and health insurance business you've got one
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of two options: you can go work for a captive organization or you can become
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an independent agent. Today I'm going to explain to you the good and the bad of a
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captive organization. My name is Jeremy Smith and over the
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past 16 years I've been an agent, a manager ,an owner operator and for the
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last six years a business coach traveling the country to help insurance
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agents grow their practice and today I'm gonna try and help you grow yours. If
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you've been on YouTube before then you know the game please hit subscribe and
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ring the bell. So for me I started my career working at
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a captive agency for about two years and it was a great place for me to start. I
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think it's a really great place for anybody to start. It may not be the
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ultimate place that somebody wants to be at but for me it was a really good place
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and so I want to tell you some of my good experiences and some of the bad
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experiences. So let me start with the good about captive organizations.
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Training is probably one of the the best things about a captive organization. As
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long as you're with the right captive organization you're gonna have a really
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good hand holding experience while you learn the business. For me I went to work
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for a company called Great American. You know back in the 15 - 16 years ago and my
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process was this: we went into a full week boot camp where they taught us
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everything we needed to do when we were in the field, week number two we went out
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into the field and we watched somebody do what they taught us in the boardroom,
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week number three I went out and I did it myself with a manager critiquing me
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after every appointment and polishing the sword. It was a very well thought out
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training process and then we had trainings every single week polishing
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that sword even further. It was such a good experience as somebody that was so
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green around the ears and didn't have any clue what I was doing in
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the business. The other big thing that I experienced was a very documented and
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detailed marketing system. The company I went to work for we did seminar
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marketing so it was it was laid out how many phone calls we need to make, here's
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where I got the list, how many people I needed to say yes to come to a dinner
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seminar, how many of those people would actually show
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up. We learned this stage how many it was documented exactly how many of those
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people were gonna sit with us, how many of those people we would go write
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business on. It was all very streamlined, very documented, very detailed, very
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high-level - as opposed to just here's a bunch of leads or make a a warm list of
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all the people you know and go get them tiger.
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Another thing the captive organizations the right ones once again are really
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good about is giving you structure which as a newbie a young kid when I got into
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the business knowing what I was supposed to do every day, every week knowing what
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my agenda was. It was laid out from the training processes to when my
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appointments - when my seminars was really helpful to me and maybe the most
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underappreciated benefit that a captive organization has is could be defined no
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better than just by saying the word culture. Every day in the hallways there
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was a whole bunch of like-minded individuals headed the same direction
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that I was headed. Kept me inspired. I learned through osmosis from their
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successes and mistakes. It was just a really good experience for me to be
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around a whole lot of people doing the same thing as opposed to maybe working
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it in my basement by myself. It was a very good experience for me but
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ultimately there was a couple big problems that I found after I got that
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education and I started getting my confidence and I kind of knew what I was
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doing and this is pretty universal. No matter what captive agency you go
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work for the big difference between a captive agent and an independent agent
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the biggest one is comp. It's normally on average maybe about 50%.
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That's a big difference. On average for example on a life insurance policy for
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an independent insurance agent they're probably making on average 120 - 125%. My
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comp when I was working at a captive agency for selling that policy was 55%.
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So there's a big financial incentive to graduate into the independent world. The
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other problem that I had with the captive agency was that my product
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offering. It wasn't just Great American. I did have access to be able to sell a few
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other companies, but I didn't have the full slate of an independent agent.
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And when you've got the full slate it really takes a lot of the selling out of
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insurance sales. When I can go to a client and say "Hey you've got a problem?"
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Here's the solution. Here's how it works and here's every company in the country
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that offers that. Here's the price tag. Which one do you want? That's a very
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different experience than me trying to sell them and convince them why they
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should buy my product. I've become much more of a an advisor to them as opposed
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to a salesperson. Okay the other big thing is this and I can't say this for
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every Captive organization but I'll tell you that a very very high percentage of
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them work this way. When I went to work for them I signed a contract that said
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that they owned my clients and not only do they own my clients but they own my
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residuals. There was a vesting period before I really even owned my residuals.
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My residuals if I left that company. So when you go independent you actually own
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your client database and you actually own a hundred percent of your residuals
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of everything you sell from that point forward. You're being able to offer
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all products and your compensation is dramatically higher no doubt I don't
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know what the percentage number is maybe fifty percent maybe higher in some
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scenarios. Again I'm not knocking captive agencies I think it's a great place to
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start. I personally believe that ultimately the goal should be to evolve
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and eventually get to the independent side, but hopefully that helps and gives
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you some feedback on what you should be thinking about if you're gonna go the
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captive route. Please do me a favor and like and comment below and make sure
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that you stay tuned to the next video that we're about to put on where I'm
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gonna talk to you specifically about the questions that you need answered when
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selecting a captive organization. Thanks for being with us. I hope it was worth
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your time and we'll look forward to seeing you in the next video.