COVID-19 Risk for SIBO, IBS, and Autoimmunity Q&A 04/17/20 - YouTube

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you
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hi Creston
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I'm going to get started shortly just
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trying to figure out how to livestream
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I might be recording I'm just trying to
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check on Facebook to see if I'm actually
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live-streaming or if it's just live at
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zoom then we'll get going okay I think I
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might be good well either way I will
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record the zoom recording and then I'll
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put this on youtube if nothing else so
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welcome welcome I think the big question
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on everybody's mind is whether or not
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you are at higher risk for kovat 19 and
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that's what we're going to try to cover
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with this Facebook live I will be able
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to see your comments definitely in the
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chat I will try to log on to Facebook
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towards the end of this and see if I
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could pull up the stream on there
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hopefully I can get to your live
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comments while we're going and if not I
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will double back look at them after the
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video has ended and then I'll answer
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them in the comments so don't worry I
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will get to them at some point let me go
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ahead and share my screen in just a
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second because I'm going to do an awful
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lot of this in my very favorite program
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hold on my favorite
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which is Microsoft Paint yes I am an
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elder millennial as we are called
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so to establish the framework that we're
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going to talk about we first need to
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talk about immunology and even if you're
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not an immunologist I think it's
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important to have at least a broad
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understanding of how the immune system
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works and particularly there's going to
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be an emphasis on antiviral immunity and
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the autoimmune piece of this because I
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work with a lot of folks with
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autoimmunity or gut problems those are
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kind of my two big areas of expertise
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and I've seen this come up in a lot of
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forums with autoimmunity and as well as
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IBS and SIBO the question is whether or
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not you are intrinsically at a higher
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risk of complications from kovat 19 due
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to pre-existing gut health issues or
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autoimmunity and to frame that we're
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going to talk about immunology a little
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bit so here we have the wonderful
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program Microsoft Paint I'm going to
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scoot myself over a little bit and one
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of the things that comes up in the
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autoimmune world in particular is this
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idea that there's an immune seesaw or a
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teeter totter depending on what you grew
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up calling it and that is going to
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strike a balance hopefully between th1
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that's T helper 1 mediated immunity vs.
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th 2 now most of my patients have heard
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this schtick before so bear with me
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broadly speaking this is totally
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oversimplifying a complex system th1
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immunity is going to be largely your
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anti tumor and antiviral immunity and
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th2 immunity is the side of the immune
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system that's good at smoking out big
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things like parasites and worms they
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also are the side responsible for
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creating histamine and the allergenic
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response now with autoimmunity there's
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been a lot of talk over the last couple
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of decades whether or not there is a
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skewing of this immune seesaw where one
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side goes up and the other side goes
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down whether it be this way or that way
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is very contested amongst the autoimmune
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crowd and that's a topic for another day
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but suffice it to say these are two of
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the big arms of your immune system now
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what I think is possibly not being
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talked about enough or be
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oversimplified is that there's a lot
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more to the immune system than simply
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these two types of th cells you also
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have th 9 th let's see there's th1 th2
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th 3 aka the T helper cell cell T
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helpers I'm sorry th 3 also called T
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regs sorry there's th 9 th 17 and th 22
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so even amongst these T helper cells
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there's an awful lot of different ones
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and in the discussion of covin 19 our
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focus is probably going to be a little
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bit less on this look where else could I
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make a beautiful thing like that the
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Microsoft Paint our discussion is
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probably less about this and more about
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the cytokine storm that seems to be
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related with th17 I'm gonna toggle back
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to myself here and I'll kind of zoom
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back here okay so you have these two
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sides of the immune system you've got
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th1 and th2 that's going to mediate how
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well you could smoke out the virus
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initially what seems to be the problem
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with Koba 19 is less about those arms of
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the immune system and it's more about
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the inflammatory cascade that gets
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cookin a couple of days into the
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infection and that's more related to th
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17 now th 17 and its associated chemical
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messengers do seem to be associated with
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autoimmunity particularly if you have
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more aggressive form of disease and
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autoimmunity there is war th17 activity
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so it seems so theoretically I do think
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that a lot of people with autoimmunity
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particularly if it's severe could be at
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a higher risk of Koba 19 risk more
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complications now whether that is true
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for you as an individual we'll get to in
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a little bit but I wanted to frame that
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first while I'm on this topic I also
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wanted to mention though that there's
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discussion about the use of herbal
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remedies like elderberry and echinacea
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and whether or not that would set you up
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more for a cytokine storm and whether or
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not you should or shouldn't be taking
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these things so for what it's worth and
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I'm gonna link to some herbalist that I
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really respect
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some of their blog posts as well the
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elderberry piece of it I think is very
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shaky at best for what it's worth
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elderberry has traditionally not been
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used so much as an elderberry syrup but
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elderflower has been used more
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traditionally as an herbal medicine we
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actually don't have a lot of good
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clinical data on elderberry we have a
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handful of studies that suggest that it
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can either prevent colds and flus or
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shorten their duration if used in an
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acute setting but other than literally
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like a couple of studies we don't have a
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lot of good clinical evidence on
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elderberry it's delicious it seems to
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work I do recommend it a lot for
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prevention but as far as chugging it all
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season longer all year long I don't know
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if I'm a big fan of that there's one
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study that suggests that elderberry
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could increase levels of il-6 and I am
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flat ori messengers that is seems to be
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involved in the cytokine storm
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particularly with cope at 19 so
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theoretically if you are already
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inflamed and then you take elderberry
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and that jacks up your il-6 a little bit
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more that could be a bad thing for you
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but again we have shaky data at best
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whether or not
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elderberry does in fact do that and if
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it does that across the board or in very
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specific circumstances what I would say
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is a few things is that hardly anybody
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including myself measures interleukin 6
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on a clinical day-to-day basis we I just
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don't do it it's cost prohibitive and
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measuring inflammatory mediators in
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blood doesn't always reflect the
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inflammation load in the tissue which is
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what I'm really trying to get at when
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I'm helping somebody with a specific
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illness there are other ways to assess
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inflammation and blood work that I think
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are much more useful and you could even
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have some of this done already if you're
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a patient of mine you darn sure I've had
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all of this run at some point on you but
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even if you haven't been a patient of
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mine somebody like your primary care
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doctor or your GP of whatever form could
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have done this on you already the couple
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of things I would pay closest attention
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to is a marker called c-reactive protein
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or CRP that comes in either a high
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sensitivity or a cardiac marker
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both I think could be used for this
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purpose CRP is an inflammatory marker
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that's made in the liver secondary to
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aisle six elevation so I use that as a
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marker not only of inflammation but of
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this particular flavor of inflammation
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and also I tend to see it more as a gut
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liver axis type of inflammation so if
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you have an elevated c-reactive protein
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anything above one is noteworthy in my
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opinion if you go based off of LabCorp
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or quests ranges then they would say
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anything above three or four or
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sometimes they'll use a range of ten
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which is absurd anything about three
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typically is going to be elevated per
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standard lab ranges but that is
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something that is very tightly
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associated with il-6 and il-8 okay and
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that seems to be in question for the
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cytokine storm so if anything I doubt
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anybody on this webcast has had il-6
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measured in serum but I bet a bunch of
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you have had CRP drawn in the last
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couple of years that's probably your
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number one bet as far as assessing your
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inflammatory load and your particular
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predilection towards this type of
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inflammation beyond that there are other
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ways to measure inflammation at odds
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even but they all mean slightly
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different things what we're looking for
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is markers of this particular
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inflammatory soup so an example of what
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I think has less promise to assess your
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risk is a marker like homocysteine
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homocysteine is a marker of inflammation
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but it has much more to do with your B
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vitamin metabolism and how you're
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recycling some of your amino acids it
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doesn't to the best of my knowledge have
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any correlation with il-6 and cytokines
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and immune system activation it's more
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of a metabolic type of inflammation so
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in my opinion high homocysteine is
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probably less of a risk factor high C
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reactive protein I do think is going to
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show promise for that I follow a lot of
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my colleagues on social media and some
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of them have shared posts from other
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colleagues who are in emergency rooms at
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Urgent Care right now and I've seen a
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couple of them mentioned that prior to
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the cytokine storm lab values of C
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reactive protein seemed to go up in the
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patients with kovat so that would make
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sense for that context but that's just
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you know I wanna off from an ER
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physician I think that was in San
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Antonio that I saw that so herbs I would
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say we just don't have a lot of clinical
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data as far as herbs exacerbating aisle
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six type inflammation what I would say
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the silver lining to all of this is this
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particular inflammatory soup as I call
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it where this particular flavor of
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inflammation this il-6 interleukin-1
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beta nasty cytokine store business for
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all that it is not a good type of
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inflammation to have if you were going
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to pick one it is how previously well
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researched the cellular machinery that
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turns on this type of inflammation is
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very well understood and very well
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researched so if you look up natural
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compounds that are anti-inflammatory
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quote-unquote almost all of them will
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have some research involving interleukin
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6 C reactive protein or something called
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stat 3 which is the gene the the gene
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activator that turns on il-6 production
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and if you could inhibit one of those
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you're basically inhibiting the same
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thing and that should put you in a
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better position for the cytokine storm
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and if you think about it resveratrol I
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will link in the doobly-doo below on
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YouTube / Facebook I found one article
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not specific to kovat but I found one
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article looking at the cytokine storm
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particularly I believe was for the flu
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and they documented that tumeric shocker
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but like one of the big
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anti-inflammatories everybody's talking
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about tumeric suppresses the cytokine
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storm and could be useful for the
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influenza cytokine storm so it stands to
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reason it would be useful for the
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cytokine storm as well so things like
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tumeric resveratrol green tea buzz well
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iya you know heck even fish oil a lot of
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the traditional anti-inflammatory things
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that you would have gotten from a
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functional medicine provider or an
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herbalist probably have some impact on
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this particular type of cytokine storm
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so that's the good news the bad news is
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that this type of inflammation really
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sucks and it could kill you with Koba 19
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the good news is that we know that it
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sucks and we've known it for many many
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years and the thing that that has done
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is it's given us a lot of research so
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any of these anti-inflammatory compounds
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I will list some of my favorites but to
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work was very tall green tea fish oil
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kind of top out the list as far as I'm
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concerned and then everything else
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beyond that is kind of gravy so those
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are the big things as far as suppressing
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that cytokine storm from an herbal
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medicine perspective I did see an
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article which I will also link that
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vitamin D could be used to reduce the
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risk of infection and death from kovin
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19 which oh I see that I've got one
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question I'll get to the questions in
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just a minute I did see that I would say
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the vitamin D Association I also I
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recommend vitamin D practically for
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everybody through cold and flu season
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anyway I do think vitamin D is going to
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show to be protective against Coppa 19
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there's mixed reviews as far as Co vyd
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I'm sorry as far as influenza pneumonia
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and vitamin D the biggest area where
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I've seen that research lacking is that
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they frequently don't dose vitamin D
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appropriately so in studies if they
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actually look at people serum levels and
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try to get them up to a respectable
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level or if they do a high enough dose
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that it'll just get everybody up to a
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respectable level vitamin D does show
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promise for influenza and pneumonia risk
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and it'll probably do the same for Kovan
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the key is that most people need at
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least 2,000 IU's of vitamin D per day
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every day preferably with a fat
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containing meal because it's fat soluble
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a lot of people do really well on 5,000
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I one of those people I typically start
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people at 5,000 and then I adjust up or
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down if I need to based on lab values
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but even if you haven't had vitamin D
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tested in the last year you will
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probably tolerate 2,000 IU's of d
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marvelously and there's very very little
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risk with vitamin D for 99 percent of
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people so vitamin D I think also makes
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the list as far as I'm concerned and
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then I also found an article more
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recently that I shared on my Instagram
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account and then cross posted to
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Facebook that there's a research article
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hypothesizing that melatonin might be
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useful for Kovan now the reason
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being is that not only hold on let me
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see if I could share my screen again
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sure screed okay so going back to this
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lovely doodle that I created for you
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guys like I said before th one immunity
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is really the site of the immune system
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that is in charge of antiviral immunity
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more than anything else th - less so
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when your seesaw is skewed in favor of
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th - in favor of the allergenic and
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hissed emetic response
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you're probably in less of a position to
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fight your viruses efficiently melatonin
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in addition to being a really potent
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anti-inflammatory and side note
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prokinetic for all of you SIBO people it
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is also a pretty potent th1 promoter so
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if you are taking melatonin you get the
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nice added benefit of it being an
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anti-inflammatory which is good for the
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cytokine storm potentially and it
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increases your antiviral th1 immunity so
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I think melatonin is probably going to
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show a lot of promise now because I said
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that and because the study just came out
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in the last week or so mellow tones
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probably gonna fly off the damn shelf so
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people like me who take it more
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regularly are gonna see a shortage but
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melatonin if you tolerate it well could
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be really useful the only thing that
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melatonin really does that I've noticed
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is a look at people really funky vivid
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dreams so if you're one of those people
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that melatonin is probably not the best
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bet for you and you're better off going
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with something like turmeric or
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resveratrol or green tea but as long as
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you tolerate melatonin well that is
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something that you could have in
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addition to everything else and then the
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you know kind of the given coming from a
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nutritional therapy practitioner and
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what I do is to try to continue to eat
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as healthy as you can even amongst all
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of the craziness and the grocery
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shopping is the nightmare I know frozen
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fruits and vegetables have become kind
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of a mainstay in our household at least
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as well as just going out about weekly
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to get fresh but trying to get as many
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fruits and vegetables keeping your
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microbiome healthy and as diverse as
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possible with plant foods and fiber is
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going to be really key and also that
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will ensure that you're hopefully
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getting adequate levels of selenium
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vitamin C etc you could certainly run
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out and try to find the last remaining
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bottles of vitamin C and zinc and
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selenium or you could just get as many
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fruits and vegetables in your system as
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humanly possible and then maybe take a
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multivitamin on top of that depending on
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the multivitamin a lot of them do have
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fairly robust amounts of zinc and
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selenium in them so I don't know if I
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would recommend taking extra for most
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people I think just a multi will cover
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that base let me scroll back up I had a
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couple of topics I wanted to really make
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sure I hit all right I bored you with
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immunology 101 cytokines think
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autoimmunity has the potential to be a
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risk factor in addition to you know the
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CDC has posted a list I don't like that
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too of conditions that put you at higher
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risk like asthma chronic lung disease
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diabetes obesity liver disease actually
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made the list I noticed so there's a
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myriad of chronic diseases that put you
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at a higher risk automatically but I do
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think that autoimmunity broadly we're
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probably going to find that that makes
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the list in some way at some point
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another one that I actually wanted to
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touch on I stumbled on this article a
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couple weeks ago right at the beginning
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of the co-ed madness particularly low t3
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levels so now we're jumping into thyroid
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world low t3 levels or what is called Yu
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thyroid sick syndrome where your TSH and
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t4 are possibly normal but your t3 is
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low that does have a little bit of
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research being associated with worse
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outcomes in situations of I believe it
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was hospital acquired pneumonia and I
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will post a link to that I don't want to
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fear monger or get people worried over
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nothing but if your t3 levels are low or
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on the lower side of normal that may or
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may not bode well for you as far as
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kovat risk also it's hard to say this
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was again in a pneumonia research
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article it was a couple of years old
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probably 2017 I think but I thought that
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that was noteworthy anyway so your
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thyroid might also play a role in how
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you recover from kovat and the cytokine
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storm although that was not specifically
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mentioned in that article
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okay I think that's a lot of what I
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wanted to cover and then to circle back
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to the gut health piece of the
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conversation what I've seen a lot too is
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people asking again are am i at higher
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risk automatically because of IBS or
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SIBO or autoimmunity
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so autoimmunity had already answered I
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think that there's a solid maybe leading
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towards yes for a lot of autoimmune
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people unless you're in remission if
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your autoimmunity is well controlled or
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in remission then you're probably at no
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higher risks and your average Joe but if
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you have autoimmunity that is still
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running but anchors then yes you're
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probably at a higher risk you could try
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to assess that more accurately with
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something like C reactive protein
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possibly inflammatory markers like
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elevated ferritin or other acute phase
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reactants type markers could be useful
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in this situation but I think C reactive
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protein is really going to be the most
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commonly used and best way to assess
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that now for IBS and SIBO folk I don't
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know if I'm convinced that you guys are
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going to be at a higher risk
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intrinsically because of the
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pre-existing condition of IBS or C Bo I
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don't know if I'm gonna go with that I
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think that you guys are probably at
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average risk with the caveat a lot of
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people with autoimmunity also have IBS
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or C though and it goes both ways
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so if you have C Bo and autoimmunity
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then you're going to default to the
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conversation we had about autoimmunity
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if you have post infectious IBS if you
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have the C Bo that is inherently
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autoimmune and it's your immune system
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attacking your nerve endings that's
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destroying your MMC that's a variant of
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autoimmunity and you would be more in
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the camp with autoimmune people in that
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circumstance but if you have C Bo for an
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unknown reason or you develop SIBO
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secondary to PPI use or adhesions or
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something else unrelated to food
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poisoning and the autoimmunity then I
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don't know if you're intrinsically going
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to be at a higher risk what I would say
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with SIBO and IBS is a couple of things
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is that you guys are going to be at a
[1448]
higher risk of malabsorption
[1450]
so making extra super double mega sure
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that you're getting all of your
[1454]
nutrients from food
[1456]
and covering your bases with a
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multivitamin I think is going to very
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much behoove you getting you know a
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normal person theoretically you could
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get by with just 100 percent of your
[1466]
daily value of zinc maybe you want to
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get a hundred and twenty percent to kind
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of make up for any sort of malabsorption
[1472]
that you may or may not have because of
[1473]
the SIBO your microbiome does very much
[1478]
influence the immune system that's kind
[1480]
of the shtick that functional medicine
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and naturopathic medicine has been
[1483]
saying for a lot of years how it will
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affect COBIT outcomes is hard to say
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what I would say is that you could
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probably use your body's tendencies in
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your history to your aid in this case I
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always ask my patients is your immune
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system strong or like are you the kind
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of person who somebody could sneeze in
[1506]
your face and you're not gonna get sick
[1507]
for are you the person where one person
[1511]
five cubicles away gets a cold and you
[1514]
automatically know you're gonna get it
[1516]
because your immune system sucks that
[1517]
bad if you are in the latter category
[1519]
then you're probably at a higher risk of
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catching kovat because it's just it's a
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viral infection just like anything else
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if you're at a higher risk seemingly to
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catch a cold or flu then that probably
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will stand true with Co good
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likewise knowing your immune system
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where do you get inflamed do you get
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super inflamed or does your body seem to
[1538]
regulate at least somewhat like are you
[1541]
a person who needs to go hit the
[1543]
steroids or get a prescription
[1546]
medication to take down inflammation or
[1548]
are you good if you just rest and
[1550]
hydrate for a couple of days and your
[1552]
body naturally seems to recover if you
[1554]
are a person for whom you need that
[1556]
prescription intervention and your body
[1558]
goes just all in when it gets inflamed
[1562]
or if you get really aggressive
[1563]
autoimmune flares that probably means
[1566]
that your ability to ramp up those
[1567]
inflammatory cytokines is exaggerated
[1570]
compared to the average Joe and that
[1572]
could put you at a higher risk if you on
[1575]
the other hand are a person who you get
[1577]
inflamed and then you bounce back within
[1578]
a couple of days and you just need to
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like rest and hydrate and maybe sip on
[1582]
some tea for a few days then I don't
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know if I would necessarily think you're
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at a higher risk
[1586]
I think IBS and SIBO could go both ways
[1588]
depending on
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going on now IBD which I also work with
[1592]
IBD is automatically loved in with the
[1594]
autoimmune folk so that's that's gonna
[1598]
kind of default back to our autoimmune
[1600]
conversation let's see alright so let me
[1604]
try to answer questions now because I
[1606]
feel like I've talked a lot okay hold
[1613]
that thought
[1614]
and I'm gonna try to pull up the
[1617]
Facebook why
[1620]
I'll check there and then I'll pull up
[1622]
zoom and like I said if for some reason
[1628]
I can't get the technology to cooperate
[1631]
/ if there's user error on my part then
[1635]
I will just read the comments later and
[1638]
answer them as they come up okay I can't
[1656]
figure out how it's telling me that I am
[1658]
live so that's good but I can't figure
[1661]
out how to see the questions as they
[1665]
appear so I clearly have more learning
[1667]
to do on that front I do have one on
[1669]
Zoom Kristin asked what do you think
[1675]
about Astros anted supplements I don't
[1677]
have a lot of experience with it
[1678]
honestly it's not as well researched of
[1683]
a compound as tumeric or was very tall
[1685]
or green tea or fish oil so as far as
[1689]
like picking out things in a hierarchy I
[1691]
would probably reach for those first it
[1694]
does have anti-inflammatory effects I
[1696]
believe it has an antihistamine ik
[1697]
effect if I remember correctly I just
[1700]
don't really have any any real
[1702]
experience with it as a nutraceutical so
[1704]
I'm sorry I can't offer more of an
[1706]
opinion on that one I might do a quick
[1710]
you know a quick PubMed dive and get
[1713]
back to you though and I'll put it on
[1714]
the Facebook live feed and I'll I'll let
[1717]
you know if my opinion changes but I
[1719]
think as far as herbal medicines and
[1723]
anti-inflammatories I think those four
[1725]
would round out my top my top four fish
[1727]
oil which I think most people should
[1729]
take just indefinitely probably vitamin
[1733]
D you could also lump in as an
[1734]
anti-inflammatory and obviously it's a
[1736]
vitamin in and of itself tumeric
[1739]
resveratrol green tea I think all of
[1741]
those are probably going to beat out
[1743]
most other supplements and if you could
[1745]
get them in a cocktail or combine them
[1748]
they seem to have a synergistic effect
[1749]
Oh sulforaphane that is another one my
[1751]
god it's a little hard to source right
[1753]
now Jaros been on backorder for a little
[1756]
while and I think they just got it back
[1757]
in but there is a antioxidant from
[1762]
broccoli seed you could either get the
[1764]
broccoli seeds and grow them yourself
[1765]
which I encourage most of my patients to
[1767]
do or you could do you know a product
[1771]
like brocco Max or some sort of
[1772]
sulforaphane supplement and that does
[1774]
have beneficial effects and
[1776]
anti-inflammatory effects for your
[1778]
microbiota as well as your immune system
[1780]
and it is a stat3 il-6 inhibitor so that
[1783]
is also a very useful one in the same
[1785]
category of usefulness as tumeric and
[1787]
resveratrol I've got another question
[1790]
what brand of vitamin D there's a lot I
[1794]
tend to recommend designs for health
[1796]
they have a nice product that has
[1798]
vitamin D with a little bit of k2 thrown
[1800]
in which I do think is important there's
[1803]
also an ortho molecular product I use
[1805]
called kforce and that has a bit higher
[1808]
of a dose okay so for my people who have
[1810]
osteoporosis or lots of cavities and I'm
[1813]
suspicious that they have a vitamin K
[1814]
deficiency I'll usually use kforce for
[1817]
somebody who doesn't have overt signs of
[1819]
K deficiency and I'm not super super
[1821]
worried about it but I want to just have
[1823]
that insurance policy I'll usually use
[1825]
decides for health I think they just
[1827]
call it vitamin D supreme if I remember
[1829]
correctly but I could double-check that
[1831]
if I'm incorrect I'll let you know okay
[1834]
well I wasn't sure if I'd be able to
[1837]
fill up a whole webcast odd Kovach
[1839]
because I don't I'm not an immunologist
[1841]
I'm not a coping expert by any stretch
[1843]
of the imagination but I wanted to at
[1846]
least put out some information and
[1849]
answer a question since I've seen this
[1850]
pop up in so many of the autoimmune and
[1852]
SIBO forums lately so as I think of
[1855]
things I will probably comment on this
[1856]
thread and let you know as I chew on
[1859]
this more let's see have been another
[1861]
one recommend are these recommended
[1865]
additionally to the multis yeah so I
[1867]
would say your multivitamin you're gonna
[1870]
want to do just indefinitely in my
[1872]
opinion I think most people would do
[1874]
well on a daily multivitamin just to
[1875]
cover your bases and that's going to
[1878]
make sure that you're getting adequate
[1879]
levels of vitamin C zinc's
[1882]
etc usually bull ties are pretty lacking
[1885]
as far as magnesium and calcium but most
[1887]
other nutrients they do okay on the
[1890]
vitamin D would be in addition because
[1894]
multivitamins typically only have like
[1896]
400 IU's which is a total wuss dose you
[1900]
really need 2,000 minimum for most viral
[1902]
infections maybe even five for a lot of
[1904]
people Christine hi Christine yes I do
[1907]
have the DK in in my office if you want
[1910]
to orchestrate a time where we can do a
[1912]
pickup and you don't have to come in
[1914]
contact with me my cooties I'll just
[1916]
wave at you from my back office how
[1917]
about that but yeah so multivitamin I
[1921]
think multivitamin and fish oil
[1922]
everybody should already be on those
[1924]
anyway if you're not go ahead and start
[1926]
for multis there's a lot of them that I
[1928]
like I tend to be pretty choosy because
[1930]
I work with people with complex
[1932]
conditions Thorin has a good one I
[1935]
really like the seeking health products
[1937]
also and I carry a lot of their
[1938]
multivitamins in my office depending on
[1940]
what I'm going for
[1941]
so everybody should be on a multivitamin
[1943]
and a fish oil probably for fish oil I
[1946]
really like Nordic Naturals they don't
[1947]
smell fishy
[1948]
they don't have fishy weird verbs they
[1952]
are the triglyceride form of the fish
[1954]
oil and that seems to be absorbed better
[1955]
and their purity tested out the wazoo so
[1958]
there's no metals or weird stuff in them
[1959]
so Nordic Naturals is definitely worth
[1962]
the increase premium price for them the
[1965]
multivitamin there's many that are good
[1967]
but I really like seeking health that's
[1969]
probably the one that I use the most of
[1971]
is one of their products and then the
[1974]
anti-inflammatories on it as the basis
[1976]
if you're at an average risk and you
[1979]
know you have a run-of-the-mill case of
[1981]
SIBO that's not due to autoimmunity and
[1982]
you're not suspicious that you have on
[1984]
immunity then I don't know if I would
[1986]
run out and tank the shelves up there
[1989]
tumeric it's kind of like the toilet
[1990]
paper right like if all of us run out
[1992]
and get toilet paper when we don't
[1994]
actually need it yet then the people who
[1996]
really need it are could have access to
[1998]
it so I don't want people to run out and
[2000]
immediately buy out all of the sulfur Oh
[2003]
Phaedra spiritual turmeric and green tea
[2005]
but from a food based standpoint throw
[2008]
some to work in your food and my husband
[2010]
bless us all he just put tumor in his
[2012]
coffee the other day because Joe Brogan
[2014]
does it was the cutest thing ever
[2015]
I might keep your watching so you know
[2018]
you could sneak to work in just about
[2019]
anything heck you could even just mix
[2021]
tumeric with a little bit of coconut oil
[2023]
make it into a paste and then just take
[2026]
it down like a champ get it done and
[2028]
over with and then you got a pretty high
[2030]
dose with the fat that'll help it get
[2031]
absorbed resveratrol you officially have
[2034]
my blessing to have one or two glasses
[2036]
of red wine per week I think that's
[2039]
reasonable if you want to supplement
[2040]
beyond that that's gravy and then green
[2043]
tea there's a lot of reputable types of
[2045]
green tea try to get organic if you can
[2047]
Trader Joe's green tea I think tested
[2050]
pretty well in purity testing so that
[2052]
could be a good one that's successful to
[2054]
most people but having a few cups of
[2056]
green tea a day also wouldn't be a bad
[2058]
idea and it's food based and it's pretty
[2060]
cheap so that um I think that's gonna
[2063]
cover the bases for most everybody and
[2065]
with that I think we're gonna wrap up
[2068]
and like I said I will look at the
[2070]
questions as they come up on the
[2072]
Facebook live once it posts and the
[2074]
YouTube video I'm gonna just share this
[2076]
directly on YouTube so once this post on
[2079]
youtube I will monitor comments on both
[2081]
Facebook and YouTube let me know if you
[2083]
have questions and I will share a couple
[2085]
of those links that I promised in both
[2087]
of the descriptions and I'm also going
[2090]
to link to a an article that a herbalist
[2094]
trying to mind shared and it's just so
[2097]
thorough and such a breath of fresh air
[2099]
I really highly recommend hey I
[2101]
recommend this book he has a book on
[2102]
Amazon and elsewhere he has a marvelous
[2105]
herb school and if you want to do a
[2106]
consult with one of his herbalist
[2108]
students I highly recommend that and
[2110]
this article in particular is really
[2112]
useful so go check out Thomas's stuff
[2114]
I'm gonna link to that it's the eclectic
[2115]
school of herbal medicine and he has an
[2117]
article about Kovach 19 where he gives
[2119]
other ideas for herbal strategies and
[2121]
some of his non bullshitting advice
[2123]
which is great the and I meant to
[2127]
contrast that not that he has
[2128]
advice normally just like the Internet
[2131]
in general it's refreshing when
[2133]
somebody's not biessing you so I'm going
[2134]
to link to Thomas this article and I
[2136]
will put other goodies in the doobly-doo
[2138]
as I think of them but thank you all for
[2140]
joining me hopefully that helped you
[2142]
understand whether or not you're truly
[2143]
at an increased risk of coping 19 in the
[2146]
meantime keep washing your hands stay
[2148]
stay far
[2149]
away from everybody in there cooties and
[2151]
I'll see you in another video at some
[2154]
point I'm sure take care