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Sophie Williams: The rigged test of leadership | TED - YouTube
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I spend most of my time
talking and thinking and writing
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about women's experiences
in UK and US workplaces,
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particularly, Black women's experiences.
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And so for me, understanding
the glass cliff --
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the situation that underrepresented
leaders find themselves in
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when they take on leadership positions,
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only to find that their chances of success
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have been limited
before they even begin --
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really was an eye-opener.
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Now, I'm aware that for a lot of people,
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this might be the first time
you're hearing about the glass cliff.
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And so I think the easiest way
into the conversation
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is by starting with the glass ceiling,
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that invisible but seemingly
impossible-to-break-through barrier
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that sits above the heads
of women in business
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and stops them from reaching
the absolute pinnacles
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of their professional capabilities.
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We talk a lot about
the glass ceiling being there
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and what it's like to live
and to work underneath it.
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But we don't really talk about
what happens to those people
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who do manage to break through.
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I feel like we maybe
have this shared imagination
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that if someone were able
to break through the glass ceiling,
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it would be onwards and upwards
from there, the sky's the limit.
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But in reality, that's not
what often happens,
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because all too often, when somebody
does break through the glass ceiling,
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they find themselves in a new,
dangerous position.
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They find themselves teetering on
the edge of the glass cliff.
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So I'm going to talk about
underrepresented people a lot in this,
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and that can mean so many different things
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to different people in different moments
and different contexts.
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But I'm talking about those people
who are most underrepresented
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at the most senior levels of business.
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So that is women,
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and that's racially
marginalized people --
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essentially, anybody who's not
both white and male.
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And so the story often goes
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that when underrepresented people
take over a business,
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that business seems to start to fail.
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And that's really strange,
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and if that's true,
that's worth looking into.
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And so "The Times" newspaper
did look into it.
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And they released an article
with the headline,
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"Women on the Board:
A Help or a Hindrance?"
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And they said what I've just told you,
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that when women take over businesses
at those most senior levels --
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board member, CEO --
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that those businesses seem to find
themselves in a moment of trouble.
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And so, they concluded
that women on the board were, in fact,
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bad for business.
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And they were right.
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But just in one small way.
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In 100 other, much bigger,
much more important ways,
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they were absolutely wrong.
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But we can start with
where they were right.
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They were right
that the research does show
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that when underrepresented people
do take on those most senior roles,
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that businesses do seem to be
in a moment of trouble.
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But it’s not like
they want you to think --
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It's not that we've, you know,
stomped our way into boardrooms,
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only to look around and think,
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"Oh, God, I don't know
what I'm doing here."
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It's not that at all.
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But the reason you might think that
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is that they haven't told you
the beginning of the story.
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And the beginning of the story
is what we need to understand
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if we want to see what's stopping
more people who aren't both white and male
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from being successful when
they take on leadership roles.
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So, there's a piece of research
from the University of Exeter.
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They looked at FTSE 100 companies,
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and when they appointed female leaders,
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those businesses were
much more likely than average
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to have already been
in a consistent period
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of five months of poor performance.
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And that poor performance
can look like all kinds of things.
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It could be a reputational scandal
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where the tarnish is likely to be
passed on to the new leader.
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It could be a hit
to market valuations or to profit.
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But whatever that was,
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these businesses were all
much more likely than average
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to have already been in a consistent
period of poor performance
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before that new leader was appointed.
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And this isn't a single piece of research,
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and it's not even limited
to a single country.
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Researchers at the University of Utah
did a really similar thing,
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but they didn't just look at
the appointment of women.
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They looked at the appointment of women
and racially marginalized men.
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And they looked at Fortune 500 companies
over a 15-year period --
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so, a huge data set --
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and they found exactly the same.
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Those businesses that appointed
underrepresented leaders
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were much more likely than average
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to already be in a period
of poor performance.
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So maybe you're listening to this
and you're thinking, "Well, so what?
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So long as these people
are getting an opportunity,
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why does it matter if the businesses
aren't in perfect condition
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before these people arrive?"
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Well, one of the reasons it matters
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is the narrative that
that pushes back to us.
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If an underrepresented person
takes on a role
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and their chances of being successful
are limited before they even begin,
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if they do fail, if they do
fall off that cliff,
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the message that we get back is:
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"Well, of course they did.
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Someone like that -- that's not
the right kind of person
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to run a successful business."
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And so that message compounds,
and we just internalize it.
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So I think all of this logically
leads us to two questions,
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the first of which is:
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Why is this happening?
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Why are businesses that are in trouble
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more likely to appoint
an underrepresented leader?
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Well, it could be that,
in patriarchal societies,
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women are viewed
as caregivers, as nurturers,
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and so research has shown
that when a business is in trouble,
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women are often appointed to lead,
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not for their ability to make
transformational change,
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but because of their
perceived soft skills,
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for their ability to reengage
that workforce
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and to get them back motivated again.
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But importantly,
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because she's not hired for her ability
to make transformational change,
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research shows that she's often not given
the tools or the time necessary
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to make that change.
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And so her chances
of falling off that cliff
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are increased before she even begins
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because of the limitations
of the imaginations
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of the people who have brought her in.
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The second reason, to paraphrase
Kristin Anderson,
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who's a psychology professor
at the University of Houston,
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is that in business, women might be seen
as more disposable, more expendable,
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and that means they make
really good scapegoats.
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In that case, if your business
isn't doing well,
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bringing in a female leader
could be a real win-win scenario.
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If she comes in and is able to make that
transformational change, then great,
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your business is transformed.
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But if she's not,
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all of the blame is able
to be put onto her shoulders,
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and she's able to get
pushed out of the business,
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pushed over that cliff.
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Importantly, the research then shows
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that she's more likely than not
to be replaced by a white man,
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a move known as the "savior effect."
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And that savior effect signals to us,
to shareholders, investors, employees,
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that the business is back
in a safe pair of hands.
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It’s back to business as usual.
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And really importantly, that new
white male safe pair of hands
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is more likely to be given both the tools
and the time necessary
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to succeed where the underrepresented
person has failed.
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So up until now, we've been
talking about what happens
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when you are a racially
marginalized person
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or a woman.
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But as I said, the majority of my work
looks at Black women.
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So what happens when we do take
that more intersectional look,
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when we think about
the experiences of people
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with not just one but two
marginalized identities?
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As you might imagine,
it's not the best story.
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If a new Black woman takes over
the most senior role in the business --
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board member, CEO --
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we can safely assume two things.
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The first thing that we can assume,
as we've discussed,
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is the business might not be
in great shape.
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And the second thing that we can assume
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is that she's likely to be managing
a large team of white men,
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that leadership layer just below her,
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her closest cohort.
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And we can assume that because in 2019,
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the Lean In Foundation reported that
white men make up about 30 percent
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of that entry-level junior cohort.
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But by the time we get to the C-suite,
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that's actually ballooned
up to 68 percent.
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That means white men are the only group
whose representation grows
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as they become more senior.
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Or, to put it a different way:
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they're the only group who experienced
the opposite of the glass ceiling.
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Instead of looking up and not being able
to see themselves reflected back at all,
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they look up and see nothing but
themselves at the most senior levels.
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That is, of course, until they don't,
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until they have a new boss
who's somebody like a Black woman.
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And the reason this matters is there's
research from the University of Texas
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and the University of Michigan,
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and they looked at what happens
to that group of men
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who are so used to seeing themselves
directly mirrored back
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when they get a new boss
who doesn't mirror
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both their whiteness and their maleness.
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And what they found was amazing.
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They found that as soon as they get a boss
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who doesn't directly mirror them
in both of those ways,
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they report feeling less personally
connected to the business,
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less able to personally identify with it
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and less personally invested in it.
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And that means that their work
performance suffered;
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they did worse at their jobs.
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Now, if a business is already in trouble,
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even the greatest leader is not
going to solve it single-handedly.
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She needs her team,
particularly her senior team.
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And so if they've stopped
doing their jobs properly,
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all they're doing is continuing to push
her towards the edge of that cliff.
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The second thing that same
piece of research found was that
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they stopped doing a really important
part of any manager's job,
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and that's managing their teams.
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They stopped developing, mentoring,
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working with the people
who was their job to take care of.
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But they didn't stop doing that equally.
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No, they mostly stopped helping,
working with, developing
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anyone in that team
who was also racially marginalized.
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And so in that way,
the glass cliff bites twice.
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We're not only pushing the existing leader
closer to the edge of their cliff,
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we're stopping what could be this new
cohort of underrepresented leaders
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from coming up,
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because we're not giving them the same
support, guidance, mentorship, development
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that the rest of their
colleagues are getting.
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So I'm telling you this because I want you
to be a part of making this change.
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And that might sound impossible.
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You might be thinking,
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"Well, I can't change businesses
or charities, governments,
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any of the places where we see
the glass cliff playing out."
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But -- and stay with me for a second --
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you can, because none
of those things are real.
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Businesses, government, charities --
all of these things
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are just groups of people
who've come together to do something.
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And we're a group of people
who have come together to do something,
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and so we can make that change.
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We can look at our own conscious
and unconscious biases,
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and we can decide that we see the value
in all people all of the time,
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not just some people,
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when we have a problem
that they might be able to solve,
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or something that we might be
able to blame them for.
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So, as Angela Davis says,
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we have to “... act as though
[it’s possible to change] the world.
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And you have to do it all of the time."
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And so that's what I'm asking you to do.
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I'm asking you to look at yourself
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and to decide that you are not
going to be part of pushing anybody else
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closer towards the edge
of their own cliff.
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And I want you to know
that I'm going to be right alongside you,
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trying to do the same.
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