How To Make A Will In Australia - 3 Options To Suit Any Budget! - YouTube

Channel: Craig Bigelow

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The truth is at some point we are all going to die.
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Back in a research study, conducted by Finder in 2018, they found that one in two of us
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didn't have a valid will in place.
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As you know, I'm an insurance nerd, and along with insurance, wills are one of those things
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that we typically don't like to talk about, even though we all know the importance of
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a will, it tends to be one of those things that we keep putting off.
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So today I wanted to share with you the three broad ways that you can get a will to help
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get this important task off your to do list once and for all.
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The first way of getting a will done is to do it yourself, using an online will kit.
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The second way to get this done is what I've called a done with you or a hybrid model of
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getting a will.
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And finally, there's the traditional way of going through a solicitor, which I'm calling
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a done for you service.
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To make it easier for you, I've timestamped each of those sections and you can jump ahead
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if you need to.
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As always everything that's been mentioned, the links are available in the comments below.
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Hey guys, welcome back to the channel.
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My name's Craig and I'm the founder and head insurance expert here at True Pride.
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On this channel, I share videos that help simplify the world of insurance to make it
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easier for you.
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If you're new here, hit that subscribe button and be notified each time I release these
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videos, you can see that there's a massive increase in the number of searches for how
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to get your will online.
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Not only is there this level of uncertainty that's going on at the moment, but we all
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tend to have a little bit more time on our hands to get onto some days life admin tasks.
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My hope is that this video will help you to understand the different options that are
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available to you to get your will done.
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Now, I know that you're smart, and if you're watching this video, I hope that it brings
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together all the information that you need to know about the different options for getting
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your wheels sorted.
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You will then be able to make the decision that works best for you and your family after
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considering each of the options that are available to you.
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So firstly, let's have a look at that.
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DIY will kit option.
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The DIY will kit is the most basic and cost effective option available to you.
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A quick Google search will bring up a few different options of providers for this basic
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will.
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Now I've had a look at the offering from the state trustees who offer a DIY wheel for $31.50
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or a will and power of attorney bundle for $61.
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To get started, it's pretty simple.
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Simply enter your basic details for setting up an account, pay the money online, and then
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you'll be able to download the PDF version of this will for you to start completing this.
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There's also a guide that's available online for you to start using as a reference when
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you're looking at how to complete this will, this is a valid and legal will if completed
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correctly, but there is a couple of things that you should be careful of.
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I had to look at the Morris Blackburn website and just a bit of a caveat, I'm sure they're
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trying to upsell you into a more tailored wheel option, but they highlighted four key
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options for you to be careful of when doing these DIY wills.
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The first of these was trying to give away assets that you don't own.
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The second was failing to comply with basic legal formality, such as the witnesses signing
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in different coloured ink.
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The third was overlooking the fact that circumstances change.
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A will needs to be drafted, to take into consideration.
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These changes fourthly was for getting to a point and executor.
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Now, whilst this DIY, like it is the most basic of the wheel options available to you.
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You do have the ability to draft up a Legal will, which is much better than nothing.
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If you've got a really simple situation such as it's just you, you've got some basic assets
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such as your house or your super fund, or if you're not comfortable using an online
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system, like the hybrid models that we'll share in a second required to do this basic
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wheel option might be the best solution for you.
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So let's take a look at this hybrid wheel offering or the done with you service.
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This hybrid model is almost like a supercharged wheel, if you like.
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The questions that you'll be asked online are built by solicitor to give a framework
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that gives you a valid legal will.
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These online platforms have been set up and a series of questions will guide you through.
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What's required to set up your will in line with your intentions.
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You'll generally have access to chat support, but this is not a service that offers legal
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advice when it comes to the structuring of your will.
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I've had to look at two of these offerings in detail.
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I've looked at Willed and Safewill.
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Willed is an online service with this chat support, which offers you a online will for
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$159.
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When I was completing the online questions to prepare my will through Willed, completing
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the online questions with Will was really simple and took me about five minutes to do.
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To help understand a little bit more about Willed, I interviewed co-founder Aaron Zelman
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to share a little bit more about how Willed as offering worked.
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So I've been a financial advisor myself focused on life for many, many years.
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So I've seen an obvious need.
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I'm a diligent sort of person.
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I got all my wills done through a lawyer the traditional way years ago, but there hasn't
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been a simple way.
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The average person out there, average adult who has kids and a mortgage and to get things
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done in terms of a will in a cost effective and quick manner.
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We've seen a growing trend overseas.
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There's been some standout players overseas who've done a great job.
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In fact, about one in 10 wills in the UK are now being done online.
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So it's time to bring that trend to Australia and make it as easy as possible.
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So, uh, for the last year or so, we've been building the software to make it a very smooth,
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clear process.
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And that's what we have to play in willed.com.au
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I think there's the will kit, which is your real basic entry level, one $30.
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And I spoke about that a bit earlier in the video.
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Um, but I guess the biggest difference that I see between that and what you guys offer
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it is there is some guidance from a solicitor and it helps overcome some of those key things
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that are missed from that being signature's not matching, um, you know, no executor, that
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sort of stuff there too.
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That's right.
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I mean, a will kit is prone to areas because you could just leave sections out and therefore
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it's going to be invalid just from the get go.
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It's also just a bit tedious to write everything out these days.
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We're sort of happy just to put out details online very quickly.
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So it's, it's prone to error, but I mean, it can be a valid will, no question.
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It's a bit like going out and getting furniture from eBay or from what's left on the lawn
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somewhere.
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Yes.
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You've got furniture in your house and it's cheap that's okay.
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But, um, I would be that what we call the model as more of a lawyer designed a bit like
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an IKEA where you have designers, industrial designers, making sure that the products are
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really great.
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And then the consumer comes in and gets a very easy to use product that's efficient
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and quick to assemble most of the time, not if I'm doing it, but the IKEA model really
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gets a great result.
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And then obviously with a lawyer, you've got a more complex process.
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Um, it can be fantastic.
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It'd be like getting a furniture designer and a furniture build a custom made, et cetera
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to do it.
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And for some people that's put on me and want, but most people really just need to get a
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will in place, and this is sort of the IKEA model of that.
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The second of the hybrid models that I looked at was the offering from Safewill.
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These guys are another online service, which offers a will for $190 as an individual, or
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$300 for a couple.
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Again, completing the online questions.
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When I did this was simple and fast.
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I did find that the Safewill offer had a couple more questions, particularly around pets and
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specific assets.
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Again, to give you a bit more context of the Safewill offering, I spoke with the founder
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and CEO, Adam Lubosfky to explain a bit more about the Safewill offering.
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So we started Safewill early 2019, uh, and went to market at the end of last year.
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And the reason why we started it, so there was a personal story.
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A friend of mine passed away without a will.
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And it got in myself and my co-founder trying to work out what this aversion to will writing
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really boiled down to.
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Um, we realised that it was three main things.
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It was sort of effort, cost and a taboo if thinking about mortality and planning for
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it.
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And so we wanted to design a platform that was easy to use that empowered people to write
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their will how they wanted to at a low cost and in a really sort of friendly, uh, emotionally
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engaging way.
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And so that was how we came up with Safewill.
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We created a platform that allowed people to write a bespoke will, in 20 minutes from
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their phone while sitting on the couch and for, you know, 190 bucks.
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And I think I mentioned to you before, I really enjoy filling it out.
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It's intuitive, but not basic.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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And sort of that, that fine line of you want to make it really easy for people to use,
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but you also want to provide an educational platform.
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Yeah.
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Highlights the things that people should be thinking about.
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For example, pets, um, you know, you've got furbabies are often forgotten part of an estate
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plan.
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I'm glad you thought it was, it was well integrated.
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Oh, it's just the, it's the type of website I like to use.
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You know, those ones that are they're visually appealing, but they also don't scrimp.
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You can find more detail if you'd want it, but there's a having done a lot of this stuff.
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I'm sure you've sent it too, but to make something look simple, it's actually really hard.
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That for us was the most challenging part.
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It was very easy to get sort of a comprehensive platform, but how you get something that's
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really comprehensive, but extremely easy for someone who isn't an estate lawyer to use.
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And that was, you know, that was sort of the delicate and complicated balance that we needed
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to find.
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I really like this hybrid model and I feel that for most people it offers a solution
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that's affordable and also helps you avoid some of those common mistakes of the DIY wheel
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kit that you may not have been aware of.
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There are two major limitations I see of this hybrid model and they are, firstly, not being
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able to add a power of attorney.
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This means that you're not able to add a power of attorney for either medical or financial
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decisions to be made on your behalf.
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And I know that this is an area that these hybrid models are looking to add in the future.
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Secondly, the ability to add a testamentary trust, typically isn't available through these
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hybrid models, the ability to add a testamentary gives you some really handy solutions.
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If you're looking at tax minimization and asset protection to access both of these benefits,
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you'd need to go down the more traditional models that we'll touch on next, by going
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through a solicitor.
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The third option is the more traditional way of getting a will, which is going through
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a solicitor now I've been using a service called Legal Hub for about the last five years.
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Legal Hub have a panel of solicitors that they use and put forward based on the most
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appropriate for what you're looking for.
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Their model allows you to access a quality solicitor, no matter where you are in Australia
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at an affordable price.
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To give you an idea of pricing, this will start at about a thousand dollars for a couple
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and includes a power of attorney, testamentary trust, as well as the letter of wishes and
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storage, to give you some more information on this model.
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I interviewed Brent Dillon from Legal Hub to share more about this.
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Yeah, look, we kicked off about 2015, uh, and it was, it's a pretty simple business
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model.
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It's about how do we bring full service, high quality legal solutions, particularly in the
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area of estate planning and business succession planning to networks of advisors and accountants.
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Uh, so delivering it, the clients getting the same outcome, same quality of documentation,
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same quality of advice, but without the cost and inconvenience of having to travel into
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a CBD location.
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And as you would know, I mean, many clients live in rural communities or living in regional
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areas, but even the ones that are in our major centres, uh, most of them don't live within
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a 10 kilometre radius of the CBD.
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So it was really about the legal hub finding, you know, those quality law firms that operate
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in the space, um, putting a panel together, which we've done, streamlining a nice, simple
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process that gets efficiencies for both the client, the advisor and the law firm, and
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then delivering that in terms of what the cost outcomes look like.
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I think it's a good and good timing too with, um, what's going on in the world at the moment
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to be able to offer a service remotely.
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Um, so the cost savings are obviously beneficial, being able to do something without having
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to go to a legal office is, is definitely beneficial as well.
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Isn't it?
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Look, it is.
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And we sort of started in this space probably nearly 15 years ago when, and had a business.
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It was a precursor to the Legal Hub lawyer.
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And we were using at the time go to meeting, which was about the only sort of reliable
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platform back in those days.
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Um, and it was, it was a bit of a challenge to start with because clearly getting, um,
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lawyers comfortable in giving advice, you know, in a non-face-to-face environment was
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the first challenge.
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And then obviously having advisors comfortable that they would would adopt it, but look it
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certainly did happen.
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I mean, 15 years down the track and probably what this covert pandemic has done is it's
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really just exploded this whole online meeting technology even further.
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The whole premise of this video was to share with you the different options that are available
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when you're looking at your will.
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I hope that you'll be able to make your own decision as to which is the most appropriate
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for you and your family, depending on your complexity and the budget that you have.
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One of these options will work best for you, but remember any of the options that you choose
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is better than not having a will at all.
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You may not think that your situation is complex enough to warrant going to see a solicitor
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about where you don't have enough assets or those sorts of things as well.
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One thing to remember is that any insurance policies that you hold as well will form part
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of your estate, as Brant touched on most of us in that case, we'll have a pretty significant
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pot of assets or money that needs to be distributed.
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Should anything happen to us.
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Getting a wheel might seem like an overwhelming experience and it can be quite complex, but
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with the right advice, this can be simplified and give you the peace of mind that this has
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been done correctly.
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I feel that with these new offerings, such as the hybrid models and that sort of thing,
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it's never been easier for us to get our wills sorted out.
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If you have any questions, let me know in the comments below.