Chapter 7 Bankruptcy - Will I Lose My Car? (Reaffirmation) - YouTube

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- Hey everybody, John Skiba here,
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and in this video, I'm going to talk about
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whether you can keep your car
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if you're going through the bankruptcy process,
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and I'm even going to explain
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how the reaffirmation process works.
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But if this is your first time here to my YouTube channel,
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on how to deal with your serious debt problem.
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Alright, let's talk about Chapter Seven bankruptcy
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and vehicle loans.
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This is a question I get all the time
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from clients in my law practice
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who are looking to file for bankruptcy
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because they're dealing with medical bills or credit cards
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or whatever it is, but at the same time,
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they want to be able to keep their vehicle,
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as they always say, "That's how I get to work.
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"If I can't, if I don't have a vehicle,
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"I'm not going to be able to pay any of my other bills."
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And so it's a big concern as far as whether
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you can go through the bankruptcy process
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and actually keep your car.
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So let me give you a couple of considerations.
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And then I want to talk about the reaffirmation process.
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If you're in bankruptcy,
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or if you've been doing a lot of research on bankruptcy,
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you've probably come across something called
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a reaffirmation agreement to reaffirm your car loan,
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I want to talk about what that is and why it may or may not be
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a good idea for your situation.
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So first, let's talk about Chapter Seven bankruptcy.
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Chapter Seven is designed to eliminate
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all of your unsecured debts, credit cards, medical bills,
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personal loans,
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anything that doesn't have collateral attached to it
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generally goes away with the exception of student loans
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and taxes.
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And there are even rare exceptions when those can go away.
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But when it comes to secured debt, like a car loan,
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where there's collateral,
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where you know there's property attached to it,
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those are treated somewhat differently.
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So if you have a car, and you have a loan against it,
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you generally can keep that in a Chapter Seven,
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so long as you continue to make the monthly payments.
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Now there's a little asterix that goes along this
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with this as well.
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You can't have more equity in your vehicle
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than is allowed under your state's exemption laws.
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Now, I know that probably sounds like,
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what am I talking about there?
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Here's what it is.
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In Chapter Seven, the positive thing is you're going to get rid
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of all of your unsecured debts.
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The trade off is if you have any non exempt assets,
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the court can take them, sell them and give the money
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that they receive from selling those assets
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to your creditors.
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So but there are certain exemptions,
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on the federal and on the state level in all states
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that protect certain basics of living,
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like most people are familiar with the homestead exemption
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that protects your home.
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Well, there's exemptions for things like cars
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and household goods and wedding rings
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and retirement accounts and all that.
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But there are certain dollar limits that are attached
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to those exemptions that you have to be aware of.
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So for example, in Arizona, the exemption for a vehicle
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and this has been recorded in the year 2020.
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The exemption on a vehicle is you can have up to $6,000
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of equity in a vehicle.
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And if you are disabled and you have a plate,
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your license plate indicates that you have,
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like if you have a handicap sticker
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or just a plate that has a sticker on it,
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you can actually get up to $12,000 of equity
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in the vehicle that's protected.
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Now, what you have to look at then if you have a loan
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is let's say that your car is, that it's worth $10,000
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that you owe $6,000 on it, and so you have $4,000 of equity,
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you'd be fine in the state of Arizona
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because we can protect up to $6,000 of equity
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in that vehicle.
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However, let's say that your car is worth $20,000,
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and let's say that you owe 10,000 on it,
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so you have $10,000 of equity.
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There may be a problem there if
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because in Arizona for example,
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I only have a $6,000 exemption
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to be able to protect that vehicle.
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So you could end up losing the vehicle,
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they could take it, pay off the note,
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give you $6,000 for your exemption
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and they give the rest to your creditors.
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That's something you're going to need to talk to
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an attorney specifically about in your state
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who knows your exact exemption limits
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because that could become an issue.
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So that's the first thing we need to look at.
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You also need to be aware
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if you own your car free and clear,
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if it's totally paid off.
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If the value of it is more than the exemption limit,
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then they can take it.
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So using my example, if you own the car free and clear,
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there's nothing owed on it, and it's worth $5,000,
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in the state of Arizona, you're going to be fine
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because our exemption is 6000.
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It'll protect all $5,000 in equity.
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However, if the vehicle is worth $15,000,
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and you only have your $6,000 exemption,
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they're going to sell it,
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give you $6,000 to cover your exemption
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and then give the rest of money to your creditors.
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It's also important to note in the state of Arizona
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and in many other states,
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if you're married you can double this.
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So example again in Arizona,
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a married couple, each spouse would have $6,000
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in a vehicle of equity that they can protect.
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So the basic rule though if you owe money on it,
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and assuming that there's not any value outside
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the exemption limit, you can keep the vehicle
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as long as you continue to make the payments.
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Now, the flip side of that is also true,
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let's say that you come in and you have this
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car payment that's just killing you.
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I see this all the time now, car loans are super expensive.
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I have clients come in, they've got a 72 month loan,
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they're paying $800 a month on it.
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And they've decided I just can't do this anymore.
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If that's your situation, you can surrender the vehicle
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through your bankruptcy,
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and then you won't owe any money on it.
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They can't sue you for the balance,
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they can't come after you later on, you'll be good to go.
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So if you're in a vehicle loan, or an RV,
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or a boat or something where you're like,
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"I can't afford this anymore,"
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you can surrender it through the bankruptcy
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and you won't owe anything on it.
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Let's talk about reaffirmation agreements.
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This is probably one of the more confusing areas of the law,
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this was one of the changes that they made back
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when they amended the bankruptcy code in 2005.
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That's actually a really long time ago.
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In my mind, I keep on thinking of the recent changes.
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It's been 15 years.
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But in 2005, they introduced this idea
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of a reaffirmation agreement on a car loan.
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With a reaffirmation agreement, what it says is
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if you are going to keep your car
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and you're going to continue to make the payments on it,
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that you need to be able to sign off
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on a reaffirmation agreement.
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This is essentially a new contract between you and the bank,
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the states that you're going to continue
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to make those payments on it.
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Typically how this plays out is the reaffirmation agreement
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is sent to you or your attorney in your bankruptcy case,
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they have already filled it out
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with all the information as far as the balance owed,
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the interest rate, the monthly payments,
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you're required to look at it, you're required to sign it,
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your attorney may sign it,
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and then you provide it back to the lender
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who will then submit it to the court.
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Then the last step is that the court has to approve it.
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The court has to review the reaffirmation agreement
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and determined that it's in your best interest
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for you to sign off on the reaffirmation agreement.
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You may be asking yourself,
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why would it not be in my best interest?
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I'm willing to pay for this,
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I feel like I can pay for my vehicle.
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The reason why is because if you sign
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a reaffirmation agreement,
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and then let's say the court approves it,
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and then a year from now, something happens
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and you're just not able to continue
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to make the payments on that vehicle,
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and then you let it go back to the bank,
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they can then come sue you for the balance.
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Now, if the court had not approved
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your reaffirmation agreement,
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they would not be able to sue you for the balance.
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So that's kind of an important distinction there,
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is that if you have,
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if you sign off on a reaffirmation agreement,
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and the court approves it,
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it's highly likely that if you lose that car down the road,
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you're going to become liable for it,
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they'll sue you for the balance that's owed on that.
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Because of that, I can tell you in the state of Arizona,
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I don't have any experience
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doing reaffirmation agreements in any other state,
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but I can tell you in the state of Arizona,
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most of the time, the courts will not approve
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the reaffirmation agreement,
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because they believe that it's not in the debtor
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or the bankruptcy debtor's best interest.
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The court will say, "Look, just continue
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to make the payments on it."
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Under most state laws, as long as you're making the payments
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on the vehicle, they can't repossess it.
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Keep making those payments.
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And then if you pay it off, great, you're done.
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If you have to let it go back even a year down the road,
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then they can't sue you for it,
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because that balance was discharged in your bankruptcy case.
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Now, there are some other consequences
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to either having the reaffirmation approved or not approved
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by the court that you need to be aware of.
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The biggest one that is always stressful to clients
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is credit reporting.
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If the bankruptcy court approves
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your reaffirmation agreement, then your on time payments
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will be reported each and every month
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until you pay that vehicle off.
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However, if the court does not approve
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your reaffirmation agreement, then the lender, your bank,
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they're not required to provide any information,
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either good or bad to the credit reporting agencies.
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And they'll actually showed that the amount was discharged,
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even though you're paying it each and every month.
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So you're not going to get the credit bump
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that you were hoping.
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In most situations,
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my personal opinion is it's usually not worth it to sign off
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on the reaffirmation agreement.
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The credit bump that you get is fairly minimal.
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And there are other ways
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to build your credit post bankruptcy.
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Where as the consequences if you were to
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have the car repossessed after a bankruptcy filing
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could be devastating,
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'cause you went through bankruptcy now you're getting sued
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for possibly even a big deficiency balance on a vehicle.
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So I know that that's really the reaffirmation agreement,
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I have yet to figure out a way to try
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to explain it super clearly.
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I've tried to do it in writing and video for clients,
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and it still gets really confusing,
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but hopefully that helps a little bit.
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General rule, if you want to keep your car,
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assuming it doesn't have more value than can be protected
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under the exemption laws in your state,
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you'll be fine as long as you keep making the payments.
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The alternative as well,
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if you don't want to keep the vehicle,
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you can let that thing go.
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You're not going to owe anything on
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and you get the fresh start.
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Hope that helps, thanks for watching today.