Solar Panels For Home - 9 Months Later Review - YouTube

Channel: Undecided with Matt Ferrell

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It’s the video many of you have been asking for for some time now.
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Ever since I published the video about my solar panel system on my home earlier in the
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year, and my experience with the installation and energy production I’ve been seeing,
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I’ve been asked for an update on how it’s going.
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By a lot of people.
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Well, it’s time.
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How much energy production have I been seeing?
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How much money have I spent versus how much I’ve saved?
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I’m going to cover it all.
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But before we dive in take a moment and hit the subscribe button, so you don’t miss
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out on future videos like this one.
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I’m Matt Ferrell ... welcome to Undecided.
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I had my solar panels installed in September of 2018 and turned on at the beginning of
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October.
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It was a long and drawn out process, but pretty straight forward.
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You can check out my previous solar panel video for details around that experience.
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On that video, as well as my videos on energy storage, I’ve gotten a lot of comments about
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how solar isn’t worth it because you’re not getting energy on cloudy days, when it’s
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snowing, or can’t live off-grid and it only works in certain locations.
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There’s usually a nugget of truth in those comments, but they all miss the bigger picture
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for why solar works for so many people.
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For me specifically … I live near Boston, so knew going in that my solar production
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during the winter months would be less than ideal.
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My home and the surrounding environment is also a bit challenging with trees blocking
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the late afternoon and early evening sun.
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My goal has never been to be 100% on solar.
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For my specific situation that’s not possible, but it might be for many others.
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My goal is to get as much energy as I can from a renewable and sustainable resource;
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to reduce my carbon footprint as much as I can; and do it in a financially responsible
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way that works for me.
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So have I been achieving that goal?
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The jury is still out, but things look like they’re on the right track.
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It was a little anti-climactic turning on my solar panels for the first time since it
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was a rainy day in October.
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I also knew whatever I saw that month was only going to drop the following month since
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we were heading into winter.
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My system is managed by Enphase, which has an ā€œokayā€ app for checking high level
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data for day-to-day production.
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The way my system is set up, I don’t see down-to-the-minute production numbers, but
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that hasn’t bothered me too much because I also have a Sense energy monitor installed.
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I have a video on the Sense, too, if you’d like to see more on how it works and my experiences
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with it, but it’s a pretty cool system that lets me see real time data for my home energy
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use and solar panel production.
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Between the two I have some great data for comparison along side my electric bill.
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One of the common topics that’s come up in a lot of comments is the cost of maintenance.
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It’s still early days, but so far my cost has been … zero.
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That’s not to say there’s been no upkeep on the system, but I haven’t had to pay
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anything out of pocket to keep the system up and running.
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Over the winter we had a number of good snow storms that dumped a lot of snow on the roof.
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What I found was that light snow typically didn’t stick to the panels at all and melted
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away almost as fast as it landed on the panels.
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Heavier snow would accumulate just like a roof without panels though.
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If the sun came out within the next day or two, we’d often find mini avalanches of
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snow as the panels cleared themselves.
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Our roof was clear far sooner than my neighbors without panels.
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A few times I pulled out a roof rake to clear off the panels quickly to try and maximize
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our solar production, especially if the sun was shining again after the storm.
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I have a small house and can reach about 90% of the panels from the ground with my roof
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rake.
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It took about 15-20 minutes to clear everything off, so wasn’t too much of a chore.
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(Shoveling away the snow that fell is another story…)
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In the warmer months you’ll notice pollen and dust buildup if it hasn’t rained in
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a while.
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If it gets really coated, you might start to see a minor hit to energy production efficiency,
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but I haven’t.
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In my area it’s rained frequently enough that I haven’t had do any manual cleaning.
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I did it once to see how difficult it would be, but all it took was a quick spray from
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a garden hose.
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To be more water efficient I bought an attachment for my roof rake that has a mop and squeegee
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head.
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I still haven’t had to use it though.
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We did have two separate incidents where the solar panels stopped producing electricity,
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which was throwing errors in the Enphase system.
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My solar installer came out right away and determined that my AC disconnect switch was
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malfunctioning.
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The first time out they switched everything off and on again to get it working.
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The second time out they ended up replacing the faulty switch and everything has been
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working perfectly since.
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Looking at the energy production from the beginning of October, you can see a clear
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trend.
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My solar production starts at around 250 kWh for October, but quickly drops to a low of
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about 100 kWh in December.
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This low period continued through February, but more startling is when you look at the
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production numbers against the consumption numbers.
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We’re typically using between 700 - 1000 kWh per month.
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And before anyone says anything in the comments, yes that’s high, but it’s not out of line
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for the average home in the United States.
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Energy conservation is as important as clean energy production, but that’s a separate
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video.
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To say that I was excited to see how my production would take an upswing in the spring would
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be an understatement.
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I was like a kid eagerly awaiting Christmas morning for my Red Ryder Carbine-Action Two-Hundred-Shot
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Range Model Air Rifle.
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March is when everything took a sudden turn with production hitting around 670 kWh, which
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meant March covered two-thirds of our energy use.
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Step into April and May and things stayed fairly consistent for production.
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Since April we’ve been meeting or exceeding our energy use from our solar panels.
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For me the highlight was when my wife couldn’t stop laughing when she opened the April electric
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bill and saw that we owed $10.94.
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Compare that to the previous year at $233.40 … you can probably understand why she was
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laughing.
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Our June bill is the first one with a credit of $38.36 on our account, which most likely
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means we won’t have a bill to pay in July, either.
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If you step back you’ll see a sine wave pattern emerging for our solar production,
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which means I can provide a pretty good estimate for what the rest of the summer and early
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fall will look like.
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Depending on how it plays out over July through the beginning of October, it’s looking like
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we may come in around the low 6,000 kWh range for the year.
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The estimate we received from our installer was 6,615 kWh for the first year, so I think
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we’re going to fall a little shy of the estimate.
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If that turns out to be the case, it’ll be disappointing, but not a showstopper … and
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it’s also only half the story.
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For the other half of the story we need to look at the money.
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Here’s a look at our electric bill’s kWh over time.
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All the way through 2018 up until June.
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Across the board you can see that we’ve done better, especially once you hit March.
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For the actual electric bill price it looks very similar.
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The delta between what we’ve paid in the past spring and summer vs. what we’re paying
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now is substantial.
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Just in electricity costs we’ve seen $929 in savings from the previous year, which accounts
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for a 48% drop from before solar panels ($1919).
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But if you want a truer apples to apples price, it’s easy to calculate the price per kWh
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the panels have been generating.
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Just take the cost per kWh and multiply that by the kWh’s the system has been producing.
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Since we’re on full net metering, we’re getting full credit for all of the solar power
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we’re using or putting back into the grid.
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That’s $873 so far.
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When you add in the SREC program, which are credits paid out for how much electricity
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you put back into the grid, that adds another $1,136 on top of that.
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We have a 10 year solar loan that has had a minimum payment for the first year of $148
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a month, but we didn’t start paying for that until December.
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If we retroactively roll those payments back for October and November, you’d be looking
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at $1,332 in loan payments for the same time period.
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That’s a lot of numbers I just threw at you, so let’s break this down at a high
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level.
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That’s $873 in solar production, plus $1,136 for SRECs, minus $1,332 in loan payments.
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We end up positive by $677 so far.
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If we didn’t have SRECs, we’d be $-459.
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Would that mean it’s not worth it?
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For me, no.
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Paying the minimum on the solar loan will pay it off in 10 years, but we’re not doing
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that.
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We’ve actually been overpaying the loan already to get it paid off earlier than 10
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years.
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That will reduce the loan interest we’re having to pay and help the solar panels hit
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break even sooner.
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The solar panels are warrantied for 25 years, but can be expected to work well beyond that
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timeframe as well.
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So again, even without SRECs the system would hit break even and turn a little profit before
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its true end of life.
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And as much as people like to hold up incentive programs and subsidies as to why solar panels
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don’t work, we do have them.
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Once you put those numbers back into play, you can see that we’re actually getting
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money back from our system today even with our minimum loan payment.
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That means our out of pocket costs for the system are close to a wash for the loan payback
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period right now.
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Our loan payment and electric bill are balanced out with the solar energy production and SREC
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credits across the past nine months, and that should hold true for the year.
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So what about the system turning a profit?
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What is the payback period?
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Like I’ve said before, it’s still a little early to tell for sure because I’d like
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to have at least one year of data for that.
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However, filling in the blanks for those few months we’re missing, here’s how it’s
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looking right now.
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Our system cost $29,609 for a 9.49 kW system made up of 26 LG 365 watt panels.
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In my previous video I had said we were going to get a $9,883 tax credit, but that was a
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typo.
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It should have been an $8,883 tax credit.
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Once we got that credit back on our tax refund we immediately applied it to the solar panel
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loan, which knocked the final amount we’re paying off to $20,726.
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Depending on the rate we pay off the loan it could be close $6,800 in interest over
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10 years, which is why we’re paying it off faster to reduce that amount.
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For the sake of the numbers here, I’ll keep that interest in here for a total of $27,526
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on the loan.
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We’re getting $126.22 a month in SREC credits for 10 years, so we’ll be seeing $15,146
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from that.
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That leaves us on the hook for $12,380 out of pocket.
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But then you have to look at the money we’re saving on our electric bill.
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We were spending about $2,600 a year on electricity, but will most likely be spending about $1,100.
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That’s a savings of $1,500 in the first year.
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If we assumed that electricity prices won’t increase (they will) and my panels will produce
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the exact same amount for those 10 years (they won’t), then I’d be looking at $15,000
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in savings over the first 10 years.
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That would mean the solar panels will have reached their payback period in about 8 years,
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which is right in the ballpark of what we calculated before having them installed.
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Yes, there is variability in there because of the cost of electricity and reduced panel
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efficiency over time, but I’m putting that to the side for simplicity.
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In reality, I don’t think it’s going to change that prediction much at all.
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In the U.S. electricity prices have risen by 15% over the past 10 years, which is about
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$0.02 per kWh per year.
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But that varies depending on the region.
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In my area specifically, prices have increased 10% in the past 10 years.
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And under my panel warranty, they’re guaranteed to produce at least 88.4% of their original
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efficiency, which means you’re talking about a .5% drop each year.
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If anything, I’m going to see the cash amount saved in electricity increase each year because
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of how quickly the electricity prices are rising … not a drop because of a minor decrease
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in panel efficiency.
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Again, depending on the cost of electricity and without the SREC credits, I’d be looking
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at a payback period closer to 13 years (not including interest).
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And if I also didn’t have the tax credit, I’d be looking at closer to 18 years.
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No matter how I sliced the numbers, I always came out with my specific solar panel installation
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earning it’s money back before the system’s end of life.
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So have I achieved my goal to get as much energy as I can from a renewable and sustainable
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resource?
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To reduce my carbon footprint as much as I can and do it in a financially responsible
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way that works for me?
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Yes.
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Financially right now we’re in the same month to month position as we were before
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solar panels, but we’re getting the benefit of reducing our dependence on fossil fuels
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for our energy use.
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In another 8 years or so we should have the system completely paid off and turning a tidy
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little profit for us going forward.
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So far, so good … but I’ll be keeping a close eye on my system and how it’s holding
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to those predictions over time.
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I don’t anticipate any maintenance costs to throw this off by too much either, but
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time will tell.
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Now, if you’re interested in going solar, I strongly recommend checking out EnergySage
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for research and articles, which is a completely free service.
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They have great write-ups and reviews of different solar panels, inverters, and solar tech that
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can be useful no matter where you live.
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But if you live in the U.S. and are interested in going solar, you can get quotes from installers
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by using my Energysage portal.
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You can plug in your information and request quotes from solar installers, which all get
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funneled into your EnergySage account.
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You don’t have to worry about getting flooded with phone calls.
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It makes it easy to compare installers, cost estimates and energy production quotes in
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one place.
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And installers also have customer rankings and feedback, so you can find a reputable
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and good quality installer.
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I’ve used it myself and can vouch for how well it helped me through the process.
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So what’s your experience?
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Jump into the comments and let me know how your solar panel system has been performing
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for you.
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Meeting expectations?
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