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Solar Panels For Home - 9 Months Later Review - YouTube
Channel: Undecided with Matt Ferrell
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Itās the video many of you have been asking
for for some time now.
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Ever since I published the video about my
solar panel system on my home earlier in the
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year, and my experience with the installation
and energy production Iāve been seeing,
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Iāve been asked for an update on how itās
going.
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By a lot of people.
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Well, itās time.
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How much energy production have I been seeing?
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How much money have I spent versus how much
Iāve saved?
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Iām going to cover it all.
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But before we dive in take a moment and hit
the subscribe button, so you donāt miss
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out on future videos like this one.
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Iām Matt Ferrell ... welcome to Undecided.
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I had my solar panels installed in September
of 2018 and turned on at the beginning of
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October.
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It was a long and drawn out process, but pretty
straight forward.
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You can check out my previous solar panel
video for details around that experience.
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On that video, as well as my videos on energy
storage, Iāve gotten a lot of comments about
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how solar isnāt worth it because youāre
not getting energy on cloudy days, when itās
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snowing, or canāt live off-grid and it only
works in certain locations.
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Thereās usually a nugget of truth in those
comments, but they all miss the bigger picture
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for why solar works for so many people.
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For me specifically ⦠I live near Boston,
so knew going in that my solar production
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during the winter months would be less than
ideal.
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My home and the surrounding environment is
also a bit challenging with trees blocking
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the late afternoon and early evening sun.
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My goal has never been to be 100% on solar.
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For my specific situation thatās not possible,
but it might be for many others.
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My goal is to get as much energy as I can
from a renewable and sustainable resource;
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to reduce my carbon footprint as much as I
can; and do it in a financially responsible
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way that works for me.
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So have I been achieving that goal?
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The jury is still out, but things look like
theyāre on the right track.
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It was a little anti-climactic turning on
my solar panels for the first time since it
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was a rainy day in October.
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I also knew whatever I saw that month was
only going to drop the following month since
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we were heading into winter.
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My system is managed by Enphase, which has
an āokayā app for checking high level
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data for day-to-day production.
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The way my system is set up, I donāt see
down-to-the-minute production numbers, but
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that hasnāt bothered me too much because
I also have a Sense energy monitor installed.
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I have a video on the Sense, too, if youād
like to see more on how it works and my experiences
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with it, but itās a pretty cool system that
lets me see real time data for my home energy
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use and solar panel production.
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Between the two I have some great data for
comparison along side my electric bill.
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One of the common topics thatās come up
in a lot of comments is the cost of maintenance.
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Itās still early days, but so far my cost
has been ⦠zero.
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Thatās not to say thereās been no upkeep
on the system, but I havenāt had to pay
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anything out of pocket to keep the system
up and running.
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Over the winter we had a number of good snow
storms that dumped a lot of snow on the roof.
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What I found was that light snow typically
didnāt stick to the panels at all and melted
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away almost as fast as it landed on the panels.
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Heavier snow would accumulate just like a
roof without panels though.
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If the sun came out within the next day or
two, weād often find mini avalanches of
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snow as the panels cleared themselves.
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Our roof was clear far sooner than my neighbors
without panels.
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A few times I pulled out a roof rake to clear
off the panels quickly to try and maximize
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our solar production, especially if the sun
was shining again after the storm.
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I have a small house and can reach about 90%
of the panels from the ground with my roof
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rake.
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It took about 15-20 minutes to clear everything
off, so wasnāt too much of a chore.
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(Shoveling away the snow that fell is another
storyā¦)
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In the warmer months youāll notice pollen
and dust buildup if it hasnāt rained in
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a while.
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If it gets really coated, you might start
to see a minor hit to energy production efficiency,
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but I havenāt.
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In my area itās rained frequently enough
that I havenāt had do any manual cleaning.
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I did it once to see how difficult it would
be, but all it took was a quick spray from
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a garden hose.
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To be more water efficient I bought an attachment
for my roof rake that has a mop and squeegee
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head.
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I still havenāt had to use it though.
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We did have two separate incidents where the
solar panels stopped producing electricity,
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which was throwing errors in the Enphase system.
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My solar installer came out right away and
determined that my AC disconnect switch was
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malfunctioning.
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The first time out they switched everything
off and on again to get it working.
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The second time out they ended up replacing
the faulty switch and everything has been
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working perfectly since.
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Looking at the energy production from the
beginning of October, you can see a clear
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trend.
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My solar production starts at around 250 kWh
for October, but quickly drops to a low of
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about 100 kWh in December.
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This low period continued through February,
but more startling is when you look at the
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production numbers against the consumption
numbers.
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Weāre typically using between 700 - 1000
kWh per month.
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And before anyone says anything in the comments,
yes thatās high, but itās not out of line
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for the average home in the United States.
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Energy conservation is as important as clean
energy production, but thatās a separate
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video.
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To say that I was excited to see how my production
would take an upswing in the spring would
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be an understatement.
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I was like a kid eagerly awaiting Christmas
morning for my Red Ryder Carbine-Action Two-Hundred-Shot
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Range Model Air Rifle.
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March is when everything took a sudden turn
with production hitting around 670 kWh, which
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meant March covered two-thirds of our energy
use.
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Step into April and May and things stayed
fairly consistent for production.
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Since April weāve been meeting or exceeding
our energy use from our solar panels.
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For me the highlight was when my wife couldnāt
stop laughing when she opened the April electric
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bill and saw that we owed $10.94.
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Compare that to the previous year at $233.40
⦠you can probably understand why she was
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laughing.
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Our June bill is the first one with a credit
of $38.36 on our account, which most likely
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means we wonāt have a bill to pay in July,
either.
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If you step back youāll see a sine wave
pattern emerging for our solar production,
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which means I can provide a pretty good estimate
for what the rest of the summer and early
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fall will look like.
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Depending on how it plays out over July through
the beginning of October, itās looking like
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we may come in around the low 6,000 kWh range
for the year.
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The estimate we received from our installer
was 6,615 kWh for the first year, so I think
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weāre going to fall a little shy of the
estimate.
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If that turns out to be the case, itāll
be disappointing, but not a showstopper ⦠and
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itās also only half the story.
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For the other half of the story we need to
look at the money.
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Hereās a look at our electric billās kWh
over time.
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All the way through 2018 up until June.
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Across the board you can see that weāve
done better, especially once you hit March.
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For the actual electric bill price it looks
very similar.
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The delta between what weāve paid in the
past spring and summer vs. what weāre paying
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now is substantial.
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Just in electricity costs weāve seen $929
in savings from the previous year, which accounts
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for a 48% drop from before solar panels ($1919).
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But if you want a truer apples to apples price,
itās easy to calculate the price per kWh
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the panels have been generating.
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Just take the cost per kWh and multiply that
by the kWhās the system has been producing.
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Since weāre on full net metering, weāre
getting full credit for all of the solar power
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weāre using or putting back into the grid.
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Thatās $873 so far.
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When you add in the SREC program, which are
credits paid out for how much electricity
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you put back into the grid, that adds another
$1,136 on top of that.
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We have a 10 year solar loan that has had
a minimum payment for the first year of $148
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a month, but we didnāt start paying for
that until December.
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If we retroactively roll those payments back
for October and November, youād be looking
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at $1,332 in loan payments for the same time
period.
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Thatās a lot of numbers I just threw at
you, so letās break this down at a high
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level.
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Thatās $873 in solar production, plus $1,136
for SRECs, minus $1,332 in loan payments.
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We end up positive by $677 so far.
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If we didnāt have SRECs, weād be $-459.
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Would that mean itās not worth it?
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For me, no.
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Paying the minimum on the solar loan will
pay it off in 10 years, but weāre not doing
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that.
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Weāve actually been overpaying the loan
already to get it paid off earlier than 10
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years.
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That will reduce the loan interest weāre
having to pay and help the solar panels hit
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break even sooner.
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The solar panels are warrantied for 25 years,
but can be expected to work well beyond that
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timeframe as well.
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So again, even without SRECs the system would
hit break even and turn a little profit before
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its true end of life.
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And as much as people like to hold up incentive
programs and subsidies as to why solar panels
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donāt work, we do have them.
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Once you put those numbers back into play,
you can see that weāre actually getting
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money back from our system today even with
our minimum loan payment.
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That means our out of pocket costs for the
system are close to a wash for the loan payback
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period right now.
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Our loan payment and electric bill are balanced
out with the solar energy production and SREC
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credits across the past nine months, and that
should hold true for the year.
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So what about the system turning a profit?
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What is the payback period?
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Like Iāve said before, itās still a little
early to tell for sure because Iād like
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to have at least one year of data for that.
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However, filling in the blanks for those few
months weāre missing, hereās how itās
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looking right now.
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Our system cost $29,609 for a 9.49 kW system
made up of 26 LG 365 watt panels.
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In my previous video I had said we were going
to get a $9,883 tax credit, but that was a
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typo.
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It should have been an $8,883 tax credit.
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Once we got that credit back on our tax refund
we immediately applied it to the solar panel
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loan, which knocked the final amount weāre
paying off to $20,726.
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Depending on the rate we pay off the loan
it could be close $6,800 in interest over
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10 years, which is why weāre paying it off
faster to reduce that amount.
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For the sake of the numbers here, Iāll keep
that interest in here for a total of $27,526
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on the loan.
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Weāre getting $126.22 a month in SREC credits
for 10 years, so weāll be seeing $15,146
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from that.
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That leaves us on the hook for $12,380 out
of pocket.
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But then you have to look at the money weāre
saving on our electric bill.
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We were spending about $2,600 a year on electricity,
but will most likely be spending about $1,100.
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Thatās a savings of $1,500 in the first
year.
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If we assumed that electricity prices wonāt
increase (they will) and my panels will produce
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the exact same amount for those 10 years (they
wonāt), then Iād be looking at $15,000
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in savings over the first 10 years.
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That would mean the solar panels will have
reached their payback period in about 8 years,
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which is right in the ballpark of what we
calculated before having them installed.
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Yes, there is variability in there because
of the cost of electricity and reduced panel
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efficiency over time, but Iām putting that
to the side for simplicity.
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In reality, I donāt think itās going to
change that prediction much at all.
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In the U.S. electricity prices have risen
by 15% over the past 10 years, which is about
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$0.02 per kWh per year.
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But that varies depending on the region.
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In my area specifically, prices have increased
10% in the past 10 years.
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And under my panel warranty, theyāre guaranteed
to produce at least 88.4% of their original
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efficiency, which means youāre talking about
a .5% drop each year.
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If anything, Iām going to see the cash amount
saved in electricity increase each year because
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of how quickly the electricity prices are
rising ⦠not a drop because of a minor decrease
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in panel efficiency.
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Again, depending on the cost of electricity
and without the SREC credits, Iād be looking
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at a payback period closer to 13 years (not
including interest).
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And if I also didnāt have the tax credit,
Iād be looking at closer to 18 years.
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No matter how I sliced the numbers, I always
came out with my specific solar panel installation
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earning itās money back before the systemās
end of life.
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So have I achieved my goal to get as much
energy as I can from a renewable and sustainable
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resource?
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To reduce my carbon footprint as much as I
can and do it in a financially responsible
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way that works for me?
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Yes.
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Financially right now weāre in the same
month to month position as we were before
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solar panels, but weāre getting the benefit
of reducing our dependence on fossil fuels
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for our energy use.
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In another 8 years or so we should have the
system completely paid off and turning a tidy
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little profit for us going forward.
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So far, so good ⦠but Iāll be keeping
a close eye on my system and how itās holding
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to those predictions over time.
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I donāt anticipate any maintenance costs
to throw this off by too much either, but
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time will tell.
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Now, if youāre interested in going solar,
I strongly recommend checking out EnergySage
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for research and articles, which is a completely
free service.
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They have great write-ups and reviews of different
solar panels, inverters, and solar tech that
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can be useful no matter where you live.
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But if you live in the U.S. and are interested
in going solar, you can get quotes from installers
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by using my Energysage portal.
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You can plug in your information and request
quotes from solar installers, which all get
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funneled into your EnergySage account.
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You donāt have to worry about getting flooded
with phone calls.
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It makes it easy to compare installers, cost
estimates and energy production quotes in
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one place.
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And installers also have customer rankings
and feedback, so you can find a reputable
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and good quality installer.
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Iāve used it myself and can vouch for how
well it helped me through the process.
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So whatās your experience?
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Jump into the comments and let me know how
your solar panel system has been performing
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for you.
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Meeting expectations?
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And if you donāt have panels but want to
get them, whatās holding you back?
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