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walter isaacson i want to i want to talk
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to you about um what's going on in
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washington d.c bob woodward and bob
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costa's extraordinary uh
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story on the front page of the
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washington post this morning but before
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i do that
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let's talk china for a minute um and
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let's let's uh let's do some dialect
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dialectical thinking here uh two things
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can be true at one time uh china uh can
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be
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uh an extraordinarily dangerous power at
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the same time we will be sharing the
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world stage with them uh and we need to
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have a bipartisan approach
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do we not that rewards china uh when uh
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they are helpful uh and that that
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actually is is tough on china when
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they're not
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how how do we get that accomplished in
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washington dc in this current climate
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you're right it would be a blunder of
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historic proportions i think if we if
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what happens now is we drive china into
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the arms of russia again for 50 years
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ever since nixon went to china exactly
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50 years ago it's been part of our
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foreign policy that we balance them off
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against each other one of the strange
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and depressing things i hear from people
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in washington in the administration and
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close to it is that they have to remain
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very tough on china because they're
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afraid of republicans who are extremely
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anti-china that wing of the republican
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party making this a partisan issue we're
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very bad at doing balances in other
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words we have both economic cooperation
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we have to do with china we have needs
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of working with china we also are
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competing with china most of that
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competition is economic until we really
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have to get our act together and have a
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bipartisan approach to china
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and as i bring it up all the time we
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obviously we were allies with one of the
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most evil men of the 20th century joseph
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stalin he killed 30 40 million of his
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own uh people uh and and as as far as
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china goes richard nixon the most ardent
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anti-communist of his time
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did a deal with with chairman mao
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perhaps the only human being
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that killed more of his own people than
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joseph stalin but he
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but nixon made the deal
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as you said
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as a counterbalance to the soviet union
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and their expansionism um
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i i i wonder how do we get there from
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here how how you know because
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there has to be a realism if if we're on
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the verge of what putin is suggesting it
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was world war iii we not only have to
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deal with china
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we've got to deal with saudi arabia
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we have to deal with other people who
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have been bad actors and
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russia's threat
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absolutely sanctions are not going to
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work if china decides to violate them or
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china decides it's going to continue to
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trade with russia already there's a lot
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of trade and energy with russia if they
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do it with the financial system
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that's really bad so the question is how
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do you make it so that the u.s has
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enough leverage economically and to me
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that means we have to be good and grow
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our economy but we also have to do
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things like biden is starting to do
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which is start exporting liquefied
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natural gas and this the larger issue
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here is that we've been through 50 years
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of pure globalization where every supply
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chain every outsourcing of manufacturing
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has been done on a global basis
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we are now reliant for microchips on
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china and taiwan we're reliant uh for so
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many things whether it be nickel or
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cobalt aluminum the things we need
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we're going to have to bring things back
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to the united states
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because i don't think in this dangerous
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world where we're trying to compete with
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china economically balance russia
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militarily we can have europe be totally
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dependent on russian gas and us
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dependent on exports from china
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and walter somebody that grew up as a
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newspaper man and knows a breaking story
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a massive breaking story when you see
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one you got to say
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gina and i were talking last night and
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it was just it's just one of those
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moments that stopped washington
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with a like you said a gigantic wow i'll
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tell you gene why don't you why don't
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you ask walter
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the next question uh so much so much to
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dig into here from uh your paper where
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did you well yeah walter um i guess the
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obvious question um the heart of the
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question is you have jenny thomas who we
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see from these texas completely off the
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rails
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we have justice thomas
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who uh was the the lone
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dissenter in the decision that the
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committee could in fact get these
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materials uh turned over from the
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national archives um how how do we deal
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with that nexus how do we deal with
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those questions that this raises about a
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sitting supreme court justice
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well i'm going to focus on one thing
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which is chief justice robert the man of
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great integrity the person who cares
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very much about the integrity of the
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court especially at a time when
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everybody considers the court to be
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totally partisan now this is not just a
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case of the court being partisan this is
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a case of some totally unhinged person
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who's married to a supreme court justice
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making texts and then her husband on the
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supreme court voting not to allow those
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things to become public even though all
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of the other justices democratic and
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republican-leaning justices did so so i
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think what mr
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what the chief justice roberts has to do
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is figure out a way since there is no
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code of conduct there's no code of
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ethics for the supreme court and this is
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not something congress can do we have
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separation of power
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so the chief justice has to figure out
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how to have
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some operating procedures and standards
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not just a list or a code of ethics but
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a way that certain justices can come
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together and enforce a code of ethics on
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their other brethren and sisters on the
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court
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this is new territory for sure this
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really is
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