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How Is A Non-Qualified Annuity Taxed? - YouTube
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Stan the annuity man here. Welcome! I
want to explain this shirt. People like,
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"Hey, what's the fist for?" Remember the
Jack Nicholson movie with Tom Cruise?
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Remember that one with you can't handle
the the truth all this stuff? Look at
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this. That's what I'm talking about right
there. You can handle the annuity truth.
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I'm the brutal truth maker out here. I'm
the walking middle-finger, brutal truth
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of brutal annuity truth. So, what are we
talking about today? How's a
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non-qualified annuity tax? Disclaimer. I'm
not a tax lawyer. I'm not a CPA. You need
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to talk to those people. Do not take tax
advice from people that haven't earned
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the right to give tax advice. It's like
asking a fat person how to be skinny. You
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don't do that. Alright? Don't ask people
that don't do taxes how to do taxes. Now,
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you saying this up, "Hey, wait a minute.
We're talking about Texas, right Stan?"
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Yeah, you ask. That's why I do my YouTube
videos. So, let's talk about how
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non-qualified annuities are taxed. I'll
give you the 30,000 foot view
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from the b-2 bomber but you got to come
down here to the fighter pilot and
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that's the tax lawyer when you get down
to the end and you're trying to make a
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decision. So, we're going to cover all that.
All types of annuities in a
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non-qualified account. Non qualified
means non-IRA. Okay? That's what that
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means. So, we're going to talk about that. At
the end of the video, I'm going to tell you
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how you can get quotes and how you can
get my books for free. And so hang in
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there with me. We're going to talk about
the ugly word --Taxes.
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Non-qualified annuities. Meaning, the
annuity is not in your IRA. And I'm
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wearing to talk about Roth IRA is not in
your traditional IRAs. So, it's in a
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non IRA account. So, how are those annuities
taxed? Let's go through the types, right?
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Let's go through the primary types.
Immediate annuities which is a pension,
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income-now-type product in a non
qualified setting. It's going to be a
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combination return of principal plus
interest based on your life expectancy
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at the time of the payment. So, you're not
going to pay taxes on the return of
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principal side. You're just going to pay
taxes on the interest side until all the
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money's gone. Once the money's gone, you
pay taxes on it all. Alright? It's based
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on your life expectancy. Same thing for
deferred income annuities in a non IRA
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setting. It's an annuitized product. So
you turn on the lifetime income stream.
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It's a combination return a principal
plus interest. When the money is all gone,
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you're going to pay taxes on the full
income amount. But up until that point,
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you're only going to pay taxes on the
interest. Now, qualified longevity annuity
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contract doesn't fit here. Why? Because
that's used in traditional IRAs. Let's
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talk about multi year guarantee
annuities. Multi year guarantee annuities
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in a non qualified setting. First of all
the good news in a non qualified setting
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because it's like a CD product. CDs, you
have to pay taxes on the interest every
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year. With multi year guarantee
annuity fixed-rate annuities you do not
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have to pay taxes on the interest of a
year. It compounds and defers. But when
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you pull the money out is taxed LIFO.
Which means Last In First Out. "English
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please." That's gains first. So, you're
going to take the gains out first. You're
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going to pay taxes on those first. Last in
first out. Same thing with fixed indexed
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annuities. If you have a fixed indexed
annuities grown and you're going to take
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money out, you're going to take gains first
out. It's going to be taxed last in, first
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out. Okay? So, that's kind of the.. In my
world, the fixed annuity world which is
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Stan the annuity man, license in all 50
states that that's how it's taxed. But
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again, you need to talk to your tax
advisor, etc.
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In other words, if you have annuities in
your portfolio now and you're trying to
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figure out the best way to go about
taking money out of those annuities, then
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you need to talk to your tax lawyer or
CPA. One other thing that might be of
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interest is with deferred annuities like
multi-year guarantee annuities or fixed
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indexed annuities, you can get to the end
of the contract. And instead of taking
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lump sums out and being taxed last in
first out in a non qualified account, you
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can convert those into immediate
annuities and take advantage of what we
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call the exclusion ratio. Which is that
combination return of principal plus
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interest. And maybe it would be a more
tax favorable decision for you.
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I know I've thrown a lot at you. That's
the reason I'm yelling at you to go see
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a professional and we can work directly
with them as well. Especially if you
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already have annuities in your account.
But if you don't and you're thinking
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about "Should I get an annuity?" You know,
in a non IRA setting, how would it be
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taxed? Just remember, immediate annuities
and in deferred income annuities which
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are annuitized products,
it's an exclusion ratio. Combination
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return of principal plus interest.
Multi-year guarantee annuities and fixed
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indexed annuities.
That's last in, first-out if you're taking
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the money. And if you have an income
rider attached to one of those... I know
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I'm throwing a lot at you. Sorry. That's
the reason you got a contact me, Stan
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theannuityman.com. But if you have an income rider attached to an indexed
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annuity or a multi-year guarantee annuity,
some do have those. Then that's a last in
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first out as well. Gains first with most
income riders attached to fixed
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annuities. I know that's a lot. So, hang in
there with me.
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Okay. So, I've got a call the other day.
Guy had a multi-year guarantee annuity
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he had held forever. Remember that's a
fixed rate annuity's like a CD. And so
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yeah a grown and it almost tripled.
And he said, "Well, you know, I could take
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money out. But I really like to
turn it into an income stream for my
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wife and myself." And I said, "Fine. We can
do that." But there are a couple rules.
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Number one, the IRS has a section if
you're really, really bored and have no
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life whatsoever. Go to section 1035 of
the IRS code. And what that says is you
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can transfer from one annuity to another
annuity
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an IRA setting. And it's a non-taxable
event. It doesn't trigger any taxes. So,
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you can go from XYZ annuity to ABC
annuity. Wire transfer and it's not
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going to create taxes. However, in this
situation, we went shop for the best and
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immediate annuity rates for this
person's dates of birth for him
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and his wife. And how they wanted to
structure it. And so, we came up with the
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the top 5 carriers. He chose one and
then we said, "Okay, we can do a 1035 IRS
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approved transfer from your current
fixed-rate annuity to the immediate
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annuity. But the cost basis --the original
cost basis transfers to the immediate
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annuity." Now, the cool part about that
really is when he turns on the income
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stream from the immediate annuity, that
cost basis is figured in. But they're
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going to (in essence) lengthen out that
tax liability over their life
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expectancies. He's still going to get an
exclusion ratio. He's still going to be a
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combination of return of principal plus
interest. They're just going to factor in
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the cost basis and then lengthen that
out --that liability out over his life
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expectancy. Which he liked. So, instead of
cashing it all in and cashing the
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multi-year guarantee annuity in and paying
all the taxes last in, first out on all
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that gain, he transferred it with cost
basis to the immediate annuity and
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created a lifetime income stream and
then lengthen out that tax liability.
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That's some Stan the annuity man inside
info that you need to know. Alright. Not
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my favorite subject taxes because I
don't like paying taxes (a lot of them).
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I'm assuming you don't either. But we
have to cover them. And I hope we kind
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of answered the general questions about
how is a non-qualified annuity taxed. I
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would encourage you to watch this video
as well which is on income riders which
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is a little bit more complex. The good
news is let me find it. Drumroll please. Income riders
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