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- [Announcer] This app,
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handled more than $15 trillion
of transactions last year.
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That's more than Mastercard
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and an amount of money that's similar
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to the European Union's GDP.
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It also has more than 900
million users in China.
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People use Alipay pay on buses and taxis,
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to pay their utility bills,
shop in stores and online,
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and even to buy insurance
and make investments.
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And yet many Americans may
have never heard of it.
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- And it's huge in China,
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the Alipay app is essentially
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a financial supermarket
that allows you to do
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everything on your mobile phone.
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- [Announcer] Alipay's
parent company, Ant Group,
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is getting global attention in 2020.
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It's combined IPOs in
Hong Kong and Shanghai
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could be one of the largest listings ever
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as Ant is aiming for a market valuation
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in excess of $200 billion.
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That means it may sell more
than $20 billion in shares
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when it goes public.
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So what is Ant and how
did it become so big?
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It all started with Jack Ma,
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the flamboyant Chinese businessman,
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who's known for his
inspirational speeches.
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- It's not about the money,
it's about the dreams.
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- [Announcer] Extravagant
performances at company parties.
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(singing in foreign language)
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And of course, co-founding Alibaba
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more than two decades ago,
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which has since become
a half trillion dollar
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online shopping giant.
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- Alibaba is like a mix of Amazon, eBay,
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and PayPal, also with a dash of Google,
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but it handles more business,
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its shopping sites than any
other company in the world.
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- [Announcer] When Alibaba
was just starting out,
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it created Alipay as an
escrow service to hold money
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from buyers and release
the funds to sellers
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after the goods had
been sent and received.
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This build trust between
merchants and buyers
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and helped to pave the way
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for the eCommerce industry boom in China.
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Not that many people in
China have credit cards
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compared to the US.
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With Alipay, most people
draw funds directly
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from their bank accounts
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and make cashless electronic payments
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without needing to use credit cards.
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- [Stella] In China, you barely
see anyone use cash anymore,
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whether it's to buy a soda
or a pack of cigarettes,
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people buy things with QR
codes and facial recognition.
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- [Announcer] In less than five years,
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Alipay has expanded to
become a ubiquitous app
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that touches other parts of life.
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Today Ant Group composes not just Alipay,
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but a broader range of financial services,
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including micro lending, insurance,
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and one of the largest money
market funds in the world
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called Yu'e Bao.
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- [Stella] So it's a really flexible tool
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that gives the average Chinese consumers
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and small business owners
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who have long been ignored
by the major banks,
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a taste of what it's
like to be able to invest
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and save money and to get
financing to fund operations.
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And all of these are done just through
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their smartphones almost instantly.
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- [Announcer] But the rapid growth of Ant
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has drawn scrutiny from
banks and regulators
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as previously reported by the journal.
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Some Chinese banks were earlier concerned
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that Ant could take away their deposits
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and reduce how much cash people use.
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Ant is trying to shed its image
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as a disruptor of China's banking sector.
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This year, the company dropped
the word financial services
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from its name in order to rebrand itself
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as more of a tech company.
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It also partners with many banks
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that fund the loans it makes
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and has made its money
market fund less risky.
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- [Stella] Regulators,
especially the central bank,
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they are very concerned about
potential liquidity risk
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in one single fund on a
Google bound platform.
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The problem is if our investors
in this firm decide to draw
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the money at the same time,
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it could cause a huge liquidity risk
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and even damage the stability
of China's financial system.
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- [Announcer] Ant responded
quickly to regulators concerns
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by imposing caps on how
much people could invest
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and opening the platform to rival funds.
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- While Ant may have been a bit reluctant
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to do that to some degree,
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it's cooperation with the
government really is crucial,
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because in China, very
few business can succeed
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without blessings from the regulators.
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- [Announcer] Outside China
Ant attempts to expand
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have sometimes gotten
entangled in politics.
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In 2017, Ant tried to buy
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US money transfer company MoneyGram,
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but the deal was scuttled by US officials
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because of national security concerns.
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- That was a really big
blow to Ant's ambition
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to expand to the US,
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which is a very large and
potentially lucrative market.
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- [Announcer] And this time
Ant's dual IPO with Alibaba
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will bypass New York.
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A person familiar with the company said
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Ant never intended to go public in the US.
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It has its eyes on
India and Southeast Asia
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where consumers and businesses
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are underbanked similar to those in China.
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But Ant's plans aren't to
launch Alipay in those markets.
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- [Stella] Ant never
intends to serve consumers
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outside of China via Alipay directly.
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Their approach is to provide some tag
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or operational expertise in
some mobile payments startups
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in those markets, but they don't really
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run this business in-house.
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- [Announcer] And since
Ant has already captured
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the biggest market in the world,
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it's been laying the groundwork
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to follow the millions of Chinese tourists
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who go abroad every year.
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The company has increased
partnerships with retailers
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and restaurants overseas.
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While the pandemic has
stifled much of global travel
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this year, the company
is not seeing a slowdown
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of online shopping and
cashless payments in China.
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So Ant will make global headlines
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when it hits in Hong Kong and Shanghai,
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and may remain a household
name only in China.
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(dramatic music)
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